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Training Camp Wrap up and on to the Pre-Season

This wraps up Training Camp leading into the first Pre-Season game. Sunday is the last Open Practice for the fans but once the pre-season starts everything begins falling into place. Friday night the first team is looking to get about 25 snaps and Eli Manning may only be out for the first drive. What's important in evaluation of this team from the perspective of the Coaching Staff, certainly Management and for those serious Giants fans who bleed blue and live and breathe Football 24/7/365? It's the player evaluation not just for starting roles but for the all important buzz word...DEPTH.  

We saw quite a bit of the second and third team players today, not necessarily by design but if you think about it these are the players who will be featured in this first pre-season game and they do need to know what they’re doing. The Giants have a lot of film on these players so that when it comes cut time August 30th to get to 75 the best decisions can be made. Even more so by 4 pm September 3rd for the final cut down to the final 53. When you reflect on it, there are several slots that are still open to competition and that would include almost all position groups.

Rich (MightyGiants) and I spent many hours this past week discussing the possibilities. Among them is what is to become of the Full Back Position in light of the fact that Will Tye, Will Johnson and other TE’s were lined up in the backfield this past week. In formations where there was a lone Running Back, often there was a 2 Tight End Set or a 12 Formation. The Tight End Position saw a lot of targets so far and it will be interesting to see if Nikita Whitlock and the traditional Full Back role is becoming a thing of the past.

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Training Camp Questions, Part 3: Defensive Backfield

 Twelve days and nine sessions of the Giants’ training camp are now in the books. Per usual, the receiver vs defensive back battles have dominated early camp coverage. We previously took a long hard look at the wide receiving unit. With Pre-Season Game #1 (vs the Miami Dolphins) looming large this coming Friday, it is high time we examined the secondary unit.

The 2015 Giants’ secondary was, in my mind, the third worst unit on the team (I place it mildly ahead of the defensive line and way ahead of the linebackers). The secondary did contain a sliver of talent, including one of the league’s better corner backs (DRC) who made the Pro Bowl and a rookie second round safety (Landon Collins) who, although forced to play out of position, had a fine first season and who, by far, led the Giants in tackles. Otherwise, the corners consisted of a disappointing former first round pick who could not stay healthy (Prince), two very similar utility journeymen (Trevin Wade and Trumaine McBride), a few additional mediocre talents who were on and off the team within a few weeks (Tramain Jacobs and Leon McFadden), and an utterly clueless former third round pick who, whenever circumstance forced him onto the field, most usually gave up an immediate long touchdown (no need to bring up the name).

The safety position was even odder. The Giants entered camp with virtually no experience at the position: three rookies (Collins, Mykkele Thompson, and Justin Currie), two 2nd year players with little-to-zero playing experience (Nate Behre and Bennett Jackson), and a third year player who had minimal previous playing time (Cooper Taylor). Then, in an almost eerie-like fashion, one safety after another fell to injury during the pre-season schedule. When the smoke cleared, only Collins and Taylor remained. With camp nearing end and zero quality FA talent available, the Giants were forced to bring in 31 year old oft-injured/bad knee Brandon Merriweather and 30 year old minimal talent Craig Dahl.

As known to all of us, this talent-starved crew of defensive backs did not fail to disappoint. By the time the 2015 season limped to the finish line, it was clear that a major clean out was in order. Prince was allowed to walk; he is now in Jacksonville playing out a one year “show me” contract. Corners McBride & Jacobs were not retained; neither were safeties Merriweather and Dahl. Finally, and mercifully, Jayron Hosley was released, hopefully never to return.

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The BBH Camp Report for Saturday August 6th

In six days the NY Giants will be playing their first pre-season game at home against Miami and they are chomping at the bit to get into some real action. I reflect back on last year without JPP, question marks at Safety and Linebacker, several players walking wounded and questions about where is Cruz and can Rueben Randle step up to take his place. There were questions about the Running Backs and of course the Offensive Line. Even at Corner, the Defense was suspect except for DRC.

 

Fast forward to August 2016 and a few phrases come to mind. Conspicuously Missing, Continuity, Upgrade and Addition by Subtraction.

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Quote from: Jaime on Today at 08:21:36 PMjack,  I was on the phone with Rich during the Combine.happens we were watching OL drills. we were both watching this lumbering hulk  of a prospect simply unable to perform a sim...
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Pat and Ed,I may not have been clear with my question. I was not referring to Eli running a 2 minute offense all game. I understand Pat's point about. My point is exactly as it seems. If we are going to run the 11 offense 90% of the time. Just let Eli...
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Well, what they have been doing hasn't been working.  At even a fundamental level.   So they're gonna have to change something up, one way or another.  I don't care how strong Pugh is, if he can stand on two feet and get in the way of the DE he'll be a...
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I don't think the Giants can do anything other than what they are doing now.This notion that Pugh is a left tackle and a good one at that is not shared by me or the coaching staff. He struggled at right tackle last week reminding us that his lack of l...
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Well Hart is out for Sunday so you will probably see the same line set up to start vs the Eagles that finished against the Lions!Insanity - doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Big Blue View

Thursday night was the most entertaining game of the year; let’s hope it spells a league-wide shift from the awful play of the first two weeks of the season. Not only was the game entertaining, but packed with fantasy goodness! Cheers to all the readers who started Gurley, Watkins, Garcon and Hyde. Bravo. On to starts and sits! Starts Buck Allen, RB, BAL From a waiver wire add to an RB2 in the blink of an eye, Allen looks here to stay. The only healthy RB in Baltimore will continue to be fed in the passing game, making him especially juicy...
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Odell Beckham, Evan Engram Are Off The Injury Report The New York Giants’ Friday injury report has good news and bad news heading in to their crucial Sunday game against the Philadelphia Eagles. The team has already ruled out right tackle Bobby Hart (ankle) as well as linebackers B.J. Goodson (shin) and J.T. Thomas (groin). The team also lists starting corner Janoris Jenkins (ankle) as “questionable” for the game. #NYGvsPHI Injury Report:(OUT) LB Goodson (shin), T Hart (ankle), LB Thomas (groin)(Questionable) CB Jenkins (ankle)— New York Giants (@Giants) September 22, 2017 Jenkins will, reportedly, test his injured ankle in...
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