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Training Camp Wrap up and on to the Pre-Season

This wraps up Training Camp leading into the first Pre-Season game. Sunday is the last Open Practice for the fans but once the pre-season starts everything begins falling into place. Friday night the first team is looking to get about 25 snaps and Eli Manning may only be out for the first drive. What's important in evaluation of this team from the perspective of the Coaching Staff, certainly Management and for those serious Giants fans who bleed blue and live and breathe Football 24/7/365? It's the player evaluation not just for starting roles but for the all important buzz word...DEPTH.  

We saw quite a bit of the second and third team players today, not necessarily by design but if you think about it these are the players who will be featured in this first pre-season game and they do need to know what they’re doing. The Giants have a lot of film on these players so that when it comes cut time August 30th to get to 75 the best decisions can be made. Even more so by 4 pm September 3rd for the final cut down to the final 53. When you reflect on it, there are several slots that are still open to competition and that would include almost all position groups.

Rich (MightyGiants) and I spent many hours this past week discussing the possibilities. Among them is what is to become of the Full Back Position in light of the fact that Will Tye, Will Johnson and other TE’s were lined up in the backfield this past week. In formations where there was a lone Running Back, often there was a 2 Tight End Set or a 12 Formation. The Tight End Position saw a lot of targets so far and it will be interesting to see if Nikita Whitlock and the traditional Full Back role is becoming a thing of the past.

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Training Camp Questions, Part 3: Defensive Backfield

 Twelve days and nine sessions of the Giants’ training camp are now in the books. Per usual, the receiver vs defensive back battles have dominated early camp coverage. We previously took a long hard look at the wide receiving unit. With Pre-Season Game #1 (vs the Miami Dolphins) looming large this coming Friday, it is high time we examined the secondary unit.

The 2015 Giants’ secondary was, in my mind, the third worst unit on the team (I place it mildly ahead of the defensive line and way ahead of the linebackers). The secondary did contain a sliver of talent, including one of the league’s better corner backs (DRC) who made the Pro Bowl and a rookie second round safety (Landon Collins) who, although forced to play out of position, had a fine first season and who, by far, led the Giants in tackles. Otherwise, the corners consisted of a disappointing former first round pick who could not stay healthy (Prince), two very similar utility journeymen (Trevin Wade and Trumaine McBride), a few additional mediocre talents who were on and off the team within a few weeks (Tramain Jacobs and Leon McFadden), and an utterly clueless former third round pick who, whenever circumstance forced him onto the field, most usually gave up an immediate long touchdown (no need to bring up the name).

The safety position was even odder. The Giants entered camp with virtually no experience at the position: three rookies (Collins, Mykkele Thompson, and Justin Currie), two 2nd year players with little-to-zero playing experience (Nate Behre and Bennett Jackson), and a third year player who had minimal previous playing time (Cooper Taylor). Then, in an almost eerie-like fashion, one safety after another fell to injury during the pre-season schedule. When the smoke cleared, only Collins and Taylor remained. With camp nearing end and zero quality FA talent available, the Giants were forced to bring in 31 year old oft-injured/bad knee Brandon Merriweather and 30 year old minimal talent Craig Dahl.

As known to all of us, this talent-starved crew of defensive backs did not fail to disappoint. By the time the 2015 season limped to the finish line, it was clear that a major clean out was in order. Prince was allowed to walk; he is now in Jacksonville playing out a one year “show me” contract. Corners McBride & Jacobs were not retained; neither were safeties Merriweather and Dahl. Finally, and mercifully, Jayron Hosley was released, hopefully never to return.

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The BBH Camp Report for Saturday August 6th

In six days the NY Giants will be playing their first pre-season game at home against Miami and they are chomping at the bit to get into some real action. I reflect back on last year without JPP, question marks at Safety and Linebacker, several players walking wounded and questions about where is Cruz and can Rueben Randle step up to take his place. There were questions about the Running Backs and of course the Offensive Line. Even at Corner, the Defense was suspect except for DRC.

 

Fast forward to August 2016 and a few phrases come to mind. Conspicuously Missing, Continuity, Upgrade and Addition by Subtraction.

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as the other poster stated it is a 23 yard fg, but your point makes sense.happy our team won.
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This feels like a sort of perfect storm type of situation here, which is kinda what it takes for the Giants to win a game these days.  The wind neutralized the passing game quite a bit for KC, and their QB while good isn't exactly known for his arm str...
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I suspect Apple's Mom being sick has had an impact on him.Don't rule the kid out because I think he has talent.Next year the team must be fixed.My guess is he will be a plus for is next season. He is still young enough to turn things around.
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That's true probably do deserve to lose if you miss it.  But given you just missed an XP on a supremely windy day.  Why not take 1 more down?
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Quote from: bldevil on Today at 12:22:52 AMOK, so you're afraid of a fumble and don't want to run the ball for a TD.  Memories of Pete Caroll rightfully telling you to not throw it either.Why not take at least 1 more k...
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The win gives the embattled coach a chance, at least, to avoid the firing line.
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The cornerback had a crucial interception in Sunday's win over the Chiefs.
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Rookie kicker makes two critical kicks in tough conditions New York Giants’ placekicker Aldrick Rosas has been having a miserable time the past few weeks. Entering Sunday, he was just 10-of-15 on field goals and had missed kicks in five straight games. The day turned out to be a miserable one to be an NFL placekicker. Gusty winds between 20 and 30 miles per hour, sometimes gusting higher than that. Rosas first kick, an extra point, got caught up in the wind, basically stopped, and flew off to the right of the uprights. No good. To add to...
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Morale higher following team’s second win New York Giants player’s morale seems higher following the team’s 12-9 win over the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday. Here is some of what players were saying Sunday after the Giants jumped to 2-8. Janoris Jenkins on what this win means ... “You got to remember, man, tough times don’t last, tough people do,” Jenkins said. “We understand it’s football, it’s the NFL. We just got to come out and play every week.” Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie on playing better this week ... “I think after the week we had, you know, guys being called out, being put...
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