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Re: Good (or bad) Movies
« Reply #1530 on: August 11, 2012, 08:22:07 PM »
Rozsa also did the scores for "El Cid" & 55 Days at Peking."  But, one of my favorites is his score for "The Naked City."  When Ted deCorsia reaches the top of the Manhattan Bridge, you see the whole city spread out underneath.  Rozsa's score hit a crescendo & evoked all the beauty & ambivalence of the city.  Magnificent!

Korngold also scored the great "Sea Hawk" with EF.  Another terrific composer was Alfred Newman (father of Randy Newman) who did many, many of the20th Century Fox movie.  His grweatest triumph was "Captain from Castile."  It was operatic in quality.

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« Reply #1531 on: August 11, 2012, 08:45:26 PM »
Wow Jim, great followup!
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« Reply #1532 on: August 11, 2012, 09:14:23 PM »

 Jim hit the nail right on the head. The musical score of any movie, particularly an action movie, sort of makes the movie. Let's think Casablanca, but without Dooley Wilson playing the piano, when Rick and Ilsa are at the airport and saying their goodbyes, try to watch that entire scene without the musical score, it wouldn't be worth the celluloid it was printed on.
 Take any of Hitchcock's movies and remove the score, the entire suspense would be gone. Watch Dial M for Murder for example, when grace Kelly is attacked and she kills thew attacker with those scissors, watch it with the sound off, and see what you get. Try Pyscho without that haunting musical score.
 We discussed High Noon here a few weeks ago. Take that music out of that movie and you have an average Western. The tremendous score was just the right thing for the entire movie.

 I could go on forever. Every good movie from 'whenever' had a great score to make it so.


What would Star Wars be with that great music, and let's not forget Jaws.
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« Reply #1533 on: August 11, 2012, 11:51:22 PM »
Right, Lenny.  Those last two by John Williams.

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« Reply #1534 on: August 12, 2012, 10:37:20 AM »
Watched J. Edgar last night.  It's a pretty powerful movie.  Directed by Clint Eastwood it was well done.
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« Reply #1535 on: August 12, 2012, 06:04:55 PM »
just watched "earching for Bobby Fischer."  Pretty good flick.

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« Reply #1536 on: August 12, 2012, 08:11:57 PM »

 Put your glasses on Jim, It's SEARCHING for Bobby Fischer
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« Reply #1537 on: August 12, 2012, 11:43:47 PM »
You're right, Lenny.  :surrender:  I guess I didn't hit the S. :(

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« Reply #1538 on: August 14, 2012, 06:33:23 PM »
I finally saw The Hunger Games.  While it wasn't too bad, I couldn't help thinking of the similarities to Running Man.
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« Reply #1539 on: August 14, 2012, 06:39:29 PM »
I just watched "The Shawshank Redemption" for the first time.  Good movie!

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« Reply #1540 on: August 15, 2012, 03:08:32 PM »
Jim

 Not just a good movie, a GREAT movie, and maybe even better than that.

A+++++++++++
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« Reply #1541 on: August 15, 2012, 03:35:42 PM »

 OK people, the much anticipated review of the new 'The Bourne Legacy' which we saw yesterday.

I read a review on line which summed up this movie pretty well
"If Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum were the cheeky entry, mouth-watering main, and delectable dessert, respectively, watching this fourquel feels like finally receiving the bill."

I first have to say, I was, and have been, just a huge fan of the Bourne series. I watched Identity right when it came out and followed suit with Supremacy and then Ultimatum.  When Jason swam away at the end of Ultimatum, you just knew there would be another in the series. Then when I read they were making a 4th Bourne movie and Matt Damon was not going to be in it, I said, WHAT THE ****. How is this going to be possible??

Now that I've seen the new movie, I'll try and explain. This movie is not about Jason Bourne, though he is mentioned thru out the movie. It is about another agent, basically taking place the same time that Jason is roaming around the streets of NY. It incorporates many of the facts from the other 3 movies and then tries to go off on it's own.
 My first reaction when we left the theater was why was it even incorporated into the Bourne series and only one reason came out, for the Bourne name. That name in the movie title is gold right now, and this movie will make loads of money by just putting Bourne into the title.  I felt if it had a completely different title, the movie might have been a lot better than it was.
 If you are a fan of the Bourne series, you have come to expect certain things from the series: action, suspense, more action, a steel minded killer we are all rooting for. This new entree into the Bourne series offers us not much on any of those counts.
 First I never bought into Jeremy Renner as the new sort of agent like Jason Bourne, Aaron Cross. He has been around, but I just see him with this baby face and never for one minute thought he was the steel minded killer that Jason Bourne was, yet they want you to believe this.
 The action, what there is of it, isn't that good, at least for a Bourne movie. that is why I said if this movie were called something else, maybe you wouldn't expect certain elements from it. Good chase scene at the end, but even that falls short of any of the past two Bourne entrees.
 And to try and decipher the plot, what was really going on, as just too much. From the past 3 Bourne movies, you got an idea what was going on, Jason was searching for who he is and was and all the underhanded dealing going on around that. In this move, they deal with Treadstone, but that is the tip of some enormous iceberg that I still don't understand.

OK, overall, Being a movie with a Bourne name in the title, I would give it a thumbs down. it just lacked what a Bourne movie should be giving you. The first half was just way too talky, but once things got going in the last 1/3 of the movie, it wasn't that bad.

Should you go see it, that is up to you. Personally, I would wait for the DVD, and in Jim's case, the Blu ray.


PSS. They certainly have left the door open for more of this new agent, but also, they have also said that maybe, just maybe, Jason might be back one day. After all he had to swim away to somewhere. :yes: :yes:
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« Reply #1542 on: August 15, 2012, 05:22:11 PM »
GREAT review, Lenny!  You just clinched my desire NOT to see it (not even on blu-ray).  I had my doubts about it when I saw that Matt Damon wasn't in it.

It reminds me of the Jack Ryan movies.  Alec Baldwin was terrific as Jack in "Hunt for Red October."  But, when they put Harrison Ford (too old for the part) in the rest, I didn't watch them.

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« Reply #1543 on: August 15, 2012, 05:36:49 PM »
Jim

 I think they were just trying to be cute with this movie, capitalizing on the Bourne name while not actually using Bourne in the movie. This way, if this movie is a huge hit, they continue making further bad movies on this series, or if it flops, they still have the option of going back to Damon as the real Jason Bourne and reviving that end of it.
 Look how many other James Bond's they tried after Connery, and they all never equalled his role.
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« Reply #1544 on: August 15, 2012, 08:33:36 PM »
just to throw in my 2 cents Alfred newman is randy newmans uncle not father.
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