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« on: March 10, 2010, 02:30:08 PM »

One Twitter reports is saying he ran a 4.71 on his second try.  No keep in mind many scouts add about a tenth of a second to Pro Day times.  I really want to know his 20 yard shuttle times but that is gong to be harder to find out.

This is not a great time, but it's not horrible.  I really think there is a good chance McClain will be there at 15.  What will be interesting is if Spikes runs a much better 40 and 20 yard shuttle.  A good work out by Spikes and he could make himself an equal to McClain or even leap frog over him, on many draft boards.

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Linebacker Rolando McClain was the main attraction of the day as he missed all of the workouts in Indianapolis at the combine due to a hamstring injury. He weighed in at 249 pounds and ran a 4.69 and 4.68 40-yard-dash. In addition, McClain ran his short shuttle in 4.41 and his three-cone drill in 7.91. He posted a vertical jump of 35.0 and broad jump of 9-1


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Alabama-pro-day-results.html

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 04:18:48 PM »

One Twitter reports is saying he ran a 4.71 on his second try.  No keep in mind many scouts add about a tenth of a second to Pro Day times.  I really want to know his 20 yard shuttle times but that is gong to be harder to find out.

This is not a great time, but it's not horrible.  I really think there is a good chance McClain will be there at 15.  What will be interesting is if Spikes runs a much better 40 and 20 yard shuttle.  A good work out by Spikes and he could make himself an equal to McClain or even leap frog over him, on many draft boards.

Thats about what I expected.  I doubt this will impact him at all.  I still say its the Dolphins, unless we move up. 

I would not move up.  There is plenty of talent in this draft.  This is hands down the deepest draft of the past 15 years.   There are at least 5 franchise tackles to be taken in Round 1 and a handful of DTs and DEs that would start on our team.  It will cost a 2 or a 3+ to move up to get McClain before the dolphins.  I think we would have to go down as far as pick 9/Buffalo to make a deal, and that would cost a 2 or a 3+.  I would not move out of rounds 2-3 in a draft this deep unless it gets me a superstar, which McClain is not.  Round 3 in this draft is better than most year's round 2.  This draft has lots of LBs who we can work with.  I am sure Bowman, Spikes or Weatherspoon will be there when our pick comes up in round 2.  I've also recently discovered the TCU LB pair, Washington and Hughes, who will be there in round 2 and maybe 3.

I hope we don't trade out of rounds 2-3 in this draft.  We are going to get 3 starters out of this draft if we are smart.  We have lots of need.  I see starting DT, T and LBs with our first three picks, with maybe a DE if someone surprising is left.  If McClain is not there, we may even move down a bit.  If he is there, take him.  If not, take a DT or an OT and go for the LB in round 2.  I think others will be there at round 2 and I feel way better taking Spikes at round 2 than I do in round 1. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 04:19:47 PM »

Mike,

The Dolphins signed ILB Dansby, you think they will also draft an ILB?
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 04:38:51 PM »

I really don't care that much for forty times. I look at it like this. On offense very seldom does a player have an opportunity to sprint unimpeded for forty yards and on defense if you need to sprint for forty yards it tends to mean you did something else wrong technique wise to give the offensive guy an advantage. You can be fast as lightening but  if you can't catch, cover, or tackle worth a damn it really doesn't mean anything.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 04:50:53 PM »

In the SEC Championship game, Demps tried to turn the corner on a sweep and McLain was able to get over and trip him up or Demps would still be running. He won't see anyone faster in the NFL. If he's fast enough (reading the play, reaction, speed, etc...) to make that play, he's fast enough.

I still think he's the best MLB in the draft, but if the Giants pass on him and take another LB they like better I won't cry.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 05:19:16 PM »

This blog (so take it for what it is worth) claims McClain suffers from Crohn's disease

http://blog.al.com/tide-source/2010/03/tides_mcclain_discloses_that_h.html
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 06:26:39 PM »

I never expected more than that anyway....I just think the kid is a football player - and he makes plays....I would hate to give up picks to get him - but if he is the next MIKE and they have him rated high - then maybe you move a pick......But to go to 9 - too rich for my blood...Costs too much plus you pay more when a guy is drafted as a top 10 guy...

In a perfect world - we hold firm - wait at 15 - he will be there...If not - there are plenty of other players out there that can make an impact....Price / Spiller / Kindle / Thomas - maybe Spikes / Mays .....
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 07:52:40 PM »

from Wikipedia - It primarily causes abdominal pain, diarrhea (which may be bloody), vomiting, or weight loss, but may also cause complications outside of the gastrointestinal tract such as skin rashes, arthritis and inflammation of the eye

There is no known pharmaceutical or surgical cure for Crohn's disease. Treatment options are restricted to controlling symptoms, maintaining remission and preventing relapse.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 08:56:16 PM »

Crohn's disease is a bad thing to have.  I went to school with a guy who had it, and he definitely had a difficult time keeping weight on. 

But, I would imagine the force of it varies from person to person.  An NFL football player with the disease isn't unprecedented...David Garrard, QB for the Jaguars, is also afflicted with Crohn's.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 10:04:48 PM »

Crohn's is tough to handle, & it's unpredictable. Relapses r inevitable. The range in severity varies greatly.
McClain has done well thus far, & I'm sure he receives the best care available. It's not a gimme that the additional demands of the NFL season, will be tolerated as well as the College season were. Respectfully, this gives reason to pause here.

The telling drill for a LB is the three-cone drill. The ability to change direction is critical to the position (especially a 4 -3 Mike). It's possible that the Jints may not have a LB on their Board that merits the 15th overall pick.
Very curious to c McClain's entire workout.
p.s. NT "Mount" Cody only put up 22 reps, while tipping the scale @ 349 lbs.

Thanks for the research Bleeder.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 10:08:25 PM »

Straight line speed is not necessarily a good indicator of playing speed. It's more important to be quick reacting and to have good lateral speed. It's interesting to note that McClain's 4.74/ 40 time exactly matches the average 40 time of all TEs drafted in the past 10 years.

I would expect that Spikes will have a similar time; Witherspoon a tad better, and few of the other LB to do any better than McClain.

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 10:57:10 PM »

Crohn's is tough to handle, & it's unpredictable. Relapses r inevitable. The range in severity varies greatly.
McClain has done well thus far, & I'm sure he receives the best care available. It's not a gimme that the additional demands of the NFL season, will be tolerated as well as the College season were. Respectfully, this gives reason to pause here.

The telling drill for a LB is the three-cone drill. The ability to change direction is critical to the position (especially a 4 -3 Mike). It's possible that the Jints may not have a LB on their Board that merits the 15th overall pick.
Very curious to c McClain's entire workout.
p.s. NT "Mount" Cody only put up 22 reps, while tipping the scale @ 349 lbs.

Thanks for the research Bleeder.

hmmmm maybe we should draft Penn State's MLB of the last two seasons, Josh Hull.  He basically kicked the rest of the LB's asses in the cone and shuttle drills at the combine.  Didn't get much pub though, because his 40 time sucked.

(joking by the way- I like Hull and think he's a solid player, but he has hit the ceiling of the amount of gifts God blessed him with, athletically....he may be a solid backup somewhere, but is not starter material in the NFL).
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 11:13:54 PM »

given all the above, if we trade osi for a 2 or a 3, can we get four rookie starters from this draft in rounds 1-3 ??????????
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 11:32:28 PM »

PSU, tru daht 4.92 does suck. But those drill #'s r impressive. Think Bosworth may have nipped him @ the wire though?

Pres, U betcha! Mike & Sam LB's, a DT & a SS. Positions of need that could conceivably be taken over by talented Rooks.

p.s. McClain put up 25 reps @ the Combine. Hot stuff!
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 12:03:23 AM »

Many scouts don't put a lot of emphasis on 40 times unless they are exceptionally good or exceptionally bad.   They want to know how fast is the player in the first 10 yards.
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