Vette - we've discussed NFT here like a person wanting advice for a boss who hates him or the Frozen Four or many other things that have no bearing on football. One of the things I love about this board is the civility with which people talk to each other. We're not in football season and as you can see by the little activity on this board of new topics, I thought it was an interesting topic (from a variety of angles).
Sorry if I offended you or anyone. Not trying to.
Thanks Mike for a good discussion. We're on different sides on this. I respect yours.
I think it was an interesting topic, I just disagree with you on a few points. I did not think you were offensive, I just disagree with you is all. Anyway, I too enjoyed our talk. I respect your right to your opinion and thank you for respecting my right to mine. I'm sure we will have more good talks. All the best.
Its a tough issue. As you know, I was a regular poster in the back porch and still do not understand why it was put to bed. But your invitation to comment on how we can manage Non Football Topics merits a great deal of discussion. IMO, we either need a "back porch" or we have to have a very strict rule about such threads. This thread did not belong in this particular place. I still think there is a place for such conversation here, but not in this main forum. I think topics like politics, religion and social justice are far too sensitive and involve a great many perspectives which are certain to involve passion. I welcome such passion, but I don;t want to trouble others here with it who do not want such things. Had this been on the back porch, I feel I would have gone into my feelings with zephirus a bit more, and it likely would have involved far more passion and harsher words. I still think its fine for two adults to get into a discussion invoking passion and sometimes even use curses. I don't think there is a thing wrong with that and as long as both members are comfortable, I say let them go at it. Non-violent disagreement is the best kind of disagreement. Its not like we are in a bar drinking and throwing fists. I think its fine to have a place where its not under the rules of gentlemanly behavior and you take the risk to go in there. If you do not want it, stay out. Thats why I think the back porch was a good place and it should have changed and stayed. The problem with it was that you guys were trying to shove a square peg in a round hole. The back porch and the main forum should be run differently, for the reasons obvious from this thread.
But since you guys don;t want to have a back porch, after viewing this thread, I think its best to cut off such threads early. Anyway, thanks for asking our thoughts. Whatever you decide is fine with me. There are other forums for having such passionate debates, and if anyone wants to join one, please let me know and I'll be happy to refer you to one. I can have my giants and sports talk here and have my passionate debates in other places.