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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2011, 12:37:55 AM »
Still no LBs though.  I get the pick, he was way too much value to pass up at that spot, but at the same time they still have pretty big holes at OL and LB and there were plenty of OLs at that spot that were more than worthy of the pick.  Castonzo in particular seemed like a steal at 19.  Maybe not as big of a steal as Prince, but also at a position of much more need than CB.  Prince seems like a good player so we'll see, but I'd have gone with an OL there. 

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2011, 02:38:21 AM »
Several profiles of Castonzo states that he can start immediately and play for 10 years. I don't see how Prince can be determined to be higher value than that. The value to the team should take precedent over the value on the board.

I'm sure he'll be useful and that he's a quality player, but the big LT was tough to pass on.   

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2011, 05:58:03 AM »
Welcome to our new Giant.  Prince "Albert In A Can" Amukamara.

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2011, 07:42:33 AM »
Pro Football Weekly draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki: Amukamara slid in large part because of concerns teams had about his perceived quirky personality and questions about how well he would fit into an NFL locker room. Many teams shy away from cornerbacks without interceptions, but the Giants, a value-driven team, recognized his worth and added depth to a battered secondary. He lacks ideal downfield ball skills, but he excels in short areas and could be a solid press corner for the Giants' aggressive defense.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/draft;_ylt=AmP1BxPKRRuEgAx0nCvaGbVDubYF
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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2011, 08:39:05 AM »
Wes Bunting on Prince:

Impression: A fluid, balanced corner who possesses only average deep speed, but looks like a guy capable of starting at a number of spots in an NFL secondary. However, I don't think he will ever be a real blue-chip corner.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=66949
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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2011, 09:06:28 AM »
Pro Football Weekly draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki: Amukamara slid in large part because of concerns teams had about his perceived quirky personality and questions about how well he would fit into an NFL locker room. Many teams shy away from cornerbacks without interceptions, but the Giants, a value-driven team, recognized his worth and added depth to a battered secondary. He lacks ideal downfield ball skills, but he excels in short areas and could be a solid press corner for the Giants' aggressive defense.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/draft;_ylt=AmP1BxPKRRuEgAx0nCvaGbVDubYF


This is utter nonsense, he slipped because so many teams need a QB or a DE to get to the QB. This is simply one of those drafts that broke right for the Giants, period.
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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2011, 09:36:41 AM »
I hope you guys are right.  I think CB was not a day 1-2 need position and that we should have taken Ingrim or an OL.  It seems like Reese loads up at some positions (DE, DB, WR) but lets others go thin (LB, RB).  Maybe I have more faith in TT than others.  We needed to address our aging OL, not a position that is relatively young by NFL standards.

The Giants don't pick positions - they pick the highest rated player on their Board at a position of need.  There are plenty of other picks to address the OL.

They should have picked a postion.  Unless they let our D play with 12 - 13 guys, I don't see how he improves us much.  The run on OTs leaves only leavings for us.  I hope Ingram at 28 doesn't start a run on RBs or the O might find itself exactly where it was last year, except one year older.
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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2011, 09:40:09 AM »
Pro Football Weekly draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki: Amukamara slid in large part because of concerns teams had about his perceived quirky personality and questions about how well he would fit into an NFL locker room. Many teams shy away from cornerbacks without interceptions, but the Giants, a value-driven team, recognized his worth and added depth to a battered secondary. He lacks ideal downfield ball skills, but he excels in short areas and could be a solid press corner for the Giants' aggressive defense.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/draft;_ylt=AmP1BxPKRRuEgAx0nCvaGbVDubYF


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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2011, 09:42:35 AM »
The Giant's value board and we play D Jackson, J Macklin, and D Bryant, M Austin twice a year. He has been widely rated as the second best corner in this draft. I read where BP thought he would turn into a better pro than Peterson taken at #5. The GMEN need speed and athleticism on defense. You can't fill all your needs with one pick.

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2011, 10:31:44 AM »
True to form.  No trade up or trade down and the best available player regardless of position.  I understand the philosophy and agree with it for the most part.  FA and injuries have a way of way of changing perspectives quickly and grabbing the best value at the time usually makes you stronger when those things bite you in the ass.

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2011, 10:34:30 AM »
True to form.  No trade up or trade down and the best available player regardless of position.  I understand the philosophy and agree with it for the most part.  FA and injuries have a way of way of changing perspectives quickly and grabbing the best value at the time usually makes you stronger when those things bite you in the ass.

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2011, 10:40:50 AM »
Not a college football follower, so I really can't comment on the quality of this (or any) pick.  That being said I wonder if this talk of him not getting many interceptions is a bit overblown.  If he's that good a corner maybe he wasn't thrown at that often.  What do you folks who know about this stuff have to say?

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2011, 10:45:03 AM »
Not a college football follower, so I really can't comment on the quality of this (or any) pick.  That being said I wonder if this talk of him not getting many interceptions is a bit overblown.  If he's that good a corner maybe he wasn't thrown at that often.  What do you folks who know about this stuff have to say?

That's true but they are also saying that he didn't play the ball well on the few chances he had for an INT.
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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2011, 11:00:15 AM »
UK Giant's write up

Prince Amukamara (Nebraska) is 6', 206lb’s with 30 1/2” arms and 4.43 speed. 2 year starter. Can make plays on the ball - 5 career INT’s and 26 passes defensed - but didn’t make a single pick as a senior and has average hands at best. Willing tackler in the run game and makes some bih hits (3 career forced fumbles). Overrated - I’ve seen him burned on several occasions on play action or double moves the past few seasons and he doesn’t seem to learn. Top 20 pick

Sounds like Will Allen part 2.

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Re: Giants first round pick- CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska)
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2011, 02:26:39 PM »
Sounds like Will Allen part 2.

I'm hoping he's more like that other allpro CB with a name that no one can pronounce.   :D
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