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Jaime

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Game Notes;
« on: December 12, 2011, 01:55:12 AM »
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Eli
JPP
Nicks
BJ
Ballard
Weatherford
Tynes
Canty
Hynoski
Petrus

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Mario
Boothe
Rolle
Ross
Williams
Tuck
Ahmad
Cruz
Blackburn
Grant
Fewell (by popular demand)
« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 02:05:46 AM by Jaime »

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 02:00:21 AM »
In addition to yours:

+1

Super Mario had a huge drop but did have a TD.  With this defense, the extra time taken off the clock may have been the difference
OL - across the board they were tough

-1
Red Zone play calling in the first half was a joke.
Williams - he struggled big time
Fewell - too many reasons to list. 

« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 02:05:22 AM by NYSPORTS »

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 02:02:52 AM »
I'd add Cruz to the + side. He started slow with a couple of drops that would have extended drives but he did redeem himself with some big catches in the 4th.

Don't forget to add Fewell to the - column. He leads the charge. The Giants have given up 121 points in three games. Inexcusable.
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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 02:14:44 AM »
+
Eli
JPP
Nicks
BJ
Ballard
Weatherford
Tynes
Canty
Hynoski
Petrus

-
Mario
Boothe
Rolle
Ross
Williams
Tuck
Ahmad
Cruz
Blackburn
Grant
Fewell (by popular demand)

Disagree on Boothe.  I think he played a big role in the return of the running game and the bad snap near the end was just him snapping it quickly to  catch Ware offsides.  The other off-target snaps were not that bad and his run blocking more than made up for it.  The guy opposite him for most of the game, Ratliffe, had only 1 tackle.

Also disagree on Mario and Cruz for reasons others have given.
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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 02:21:41 AM »
CA, I'm a Fan of Boothe, but tonite he was abysmal. He could have easily cost us the game on that horrendous snap. Several other snaps Eli had to be quick to snare the errant pigskin. One play he whiffed on Radcliff. U recall that play, the one where Radcliff almost took Ahmad's head off in the backfield.

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 07:50:35 AM »
Huh? Sure Mario had the huge drop, but he not only had the TD but have you forgotten about his crucial catch on 4th and 3?

Add Cruz to the + column.

And add Bradshaw to the + column. Forget about curfew.

As for Boothe, yes he had a bad snap. But he opened some major holes right down the middle for BJ to run thru.

In the - column: the entire defense except for JPP and Canty.

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 07:59:31 AM »
Prince should be a - as well.  He was awful.  That doesn't mean he is a bust.  It just mean he has been mediocre in his short rookie year.

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 08:00:59 AM »
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...and the bad snap near the end was just him snapping it quickly to catch Ware offsides.

Noted at the time.  Admittedly, he did have another poor snap after that, but that shouldn't, IMHuO, take away from the fact that he quick snapped in the hope the Official would call it on Ware.
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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 01:04:33 PM »
CA, I'm a Fan of Boothe, but tonite he was abysmal. He could have easily cost us the game on that horrendous snap. Several other snaps Eli had to be quick to snare the errant pigskin. One play he whiffed on Radcliff. U recall that play, the one where Radcliff almost took Ahmad's head off in the backfield.

Yeah, I also remember that it was his only tackle of the whole game.

And as far as the snap went, I think Boothe snapped it early because he saw the offfside and wanted the penalty.  IMO it was a smart veteran play.

I'm not going to write the guy off because he gave up one tackle and had a few low snaps when he also helped fuel a resurgence of our running game.
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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 01:16:05 PM »
And as far as the snap went, I think Boothe snapped it early because he saw the offfside and wanted the penalty.  IMO it was a smart veteran play.
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the flip side of that is the ball went between eli and the running back and both had to scramble to gain control of the ball....someone could have gotten hurt and we don't want that guy to be eli....go Giants!!!!!

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Game Notes;
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2011, 03:52:04 PM »
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How about the Giants having two 1000 yd receivers in one year !!!!!!!
A tribute to Eli good play and the two receivers , Cruz and Nicks.
plus a lousy defense has helped too!

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 04:03:56 PM »
And as far as the snap went, I think Boothe snapped it early because he saw the offfside and wanted the penalty.  IMO it was a smart veteran play.
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the flip side of that is the ball went between eli and the running back and both had to scramble to gain control of the ball....someone could have gotten hurt and we don't want that guy to be eli....go Giants!!!!!

Or the penalty could have been misses by the official and Dallas recovers the fumble.

No center does that on purpose.

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 04:07:02 PM »
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How about the Giants having two 1000 yd receivers in one year !!!!!!!A tribute to Eli good play and the two receivers , Cruz and Nicks.
plus a lousy defense has helped too!

First time this has ever happened I believe.  Hilliard was 4 yards short of matching Toomer in 99.
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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 04:26:59 PM »
Bradshaw deserves a special rating of -- for last nights game. With the season hanging in the balance he decided that the team and it's rules don't come first. If Jacobs doesn't rediscover his old form we'd be talking about how Bradshaw's stupidity cost us any chance at making the playoffs this year. Stupid.

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Re: Game Notes;
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 04:37:07 PM »
RAMBO, I give Prince a pass. Just too little prep to justify a legit -. A Vet generating that quality of play surely get's a -.

Blue M., Cruz had two BAD drops early that took away our Mo. A TD likely would have pushed him into + category in addition to his other play. Yeah, Mario scored a "Gimme" TD. But in crunch time, he gagged big-time. Great tribute to Eli's stellar play, that Mario didn't cost us the game. I'm a Mario Fan, but he's a wash as a WR. I wouldn't offer him anything above Vet minimum next year. No slack for Ahmad, he knows better.

terry, my eyes popped wide open when the scramble for the "Ware" snap was on. Tru daht, freak plays like that often result in injury.

CA, u have a point re; Boothe (& I'm a Fan). But his snaps were all over the place in the 4th Quarter. That inconsistency generates an additional level of difficulty for the QB. Shotgun snaps have to be consistant. Confident he'll improve.