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Story in todays Star Ledger talks about miscommunication in the defensive backfield being the cause to Dez Bryant, for example, being so wide open?  After 14 weeks?  Miscommunication??  That is troubling


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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 10:38:13 AM »
TC has "grave concerns" about the issue.


I am beginning to think having a separate coach for the safeties and the corners may not be the best idea in the world.  I wonder if having one position coach for all of them and having them attend the same meetings and practices would benefit the communication issues.   If there a too many players for one coach an assistant rather than a separate coach may be the better option.
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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 10:41:10 AM »
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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/12/giants_pass_coverage_proves_pr.html

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“It’s tremendous. Grave concern,” coach Tom Coughlin said of his secondary’s routine blunders. “The thing that I’m most discouraged about and disappointed in is when we do have a breakdown in communication and we do have some type of an error that gives up a big play. And that should not be happening and we’re continuing to try to eliminate those things.”


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Rolle’s gaffe was the culmination of a long night for the Giants pass defense, which allowed Romo to complete 21 of his 31 passes for 421 yards and four touchdowns. From beginning to end, Romo had his way with the Giants' secondary, frequently using his mobility to roll out of the pocket and find targets on the run.

Romo bought himself more time in the pocket with his feet before he found Laurent Robinson for a 74-yard completion that set up Dallas’ go-ahead touchdown on the next play early in the fourth quarter. It was the result of another gaffe in the Giants secondary, this time by rookie cornerback Prince Amukamara, who had given up a 40-yard reception to Robinson at the end of the first half that allowed the Cowboys to take the lead with a field goal.


On the play, Amukamara said the defense was in a Cover-2 zone and that would usually mean he lets the wide receiver release to where a safety is over the top. But the safety, in this case Rolle, was looked off by Romo and Amukamara said he should have made the adjustment.

“I should’ve stayed with my guy,” a dejected Amukamara said of the play.

“I take pride in not letting guys catch the ball on me. It’s still a long season; I still have a lot to learn. Even though it’s only my fourth professional game, I still can’t use that as an excuse. I’m a first-round pick so there are a lot of expectations, so I should be meeting them or exceeding them.”
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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 10:43:44 AM »
Story in todays Star Ledger talks about miscommunication in the defensive backfield being the cause to Dez Bryant, for example, being so wide open?  After 14 weeks?  Miscommunication??  That is troubling


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its starting to make me think we should be drafting by IQ first and talent second...

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 10:43:48 AM »
TC voicing "grave concerns" is directed at Fewell. Think corporate world. If the GM or President of an organization voices concern over a department that concern is directed at the leader of the department. Ditka said on last night's pregame that he knows TC, and that to TC the D's performance is unacceptable.

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 11:06:01 AM »
I would agree that Coughlin's comments are a thinly-veiled criticism of Fewell.   But why?   Coughlin is the archetypal keep-it-within-the-organisation man.

I would like to think that communication between the two is going on behind closed doors.
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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 11:11:10 AM »
Story in todays Star Ledger talks about miscommunication in the defensive backfield being the cause to Dez Bryant, for example, being so wide open?  After 14 weeks?  Miscommunication??  That is troubling


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Troubling is an understatement.  Fewell's idea of using wrist bands to communicate quicker with the DB's was as troubling as claiming he learned something after being blindsided by Seattle's hurry up offense.  He couldn't get signals in quickly enough and the DB's were lost.

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 11:22:34 AM »
This is what happens when you have mental midgets on the team that lack football instincts.

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 11:27:54 AM »
This is what happens when you have mental midgets on the team that lack football instincts.

Must mean the whole league has mental midgets playing DB as Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady are all within striking distance of Dan Marino’s single-season passing yards record of 5,084 set in 1984.


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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 11:36:59 AM »
Story in todays Star Ledger talks about miscommunication in the defensive backfield being the cause to Dez Bryant, for example, being so wide open?  After 14 weeks?  Miscommunication??  That is troubling


Fladan

its starting to make me think we should be drafting by IQ first and talent second...

I don't think you need to go to that extreme.  But IMO more emphasis needs to be put on  players mental game than the Giants have.

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 11:40:15 AM »
Story in todays Star Ledger talks about miscommunication in the defensive backfield being the cause to Dez Bryant, for example, being so wide open?  After 14 weeks?  Miscommunication??  That is troubling


Fladan

its starting to make me think we should be drafting by IQ first and talent second...

I don't think you need to go to that extreme.  But IMO more emphasis needs to be put on  players mental game than the Giants have.

So it's a Jerry Reese issue along with the entire scouting department or Perry Fewell?

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 11:45:51 AM »
Both have to take a hit.  I think you have to be FAIR here and not just blame the side you don't like and give a pass to the side you do like.  Everyone   needs to be held accountable.

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 12:07:42 PM »
Both have to take a hit.  I think you have to be FAIR here and not just blame the side you don't like and give a pass to the side you do like.  Everyone   needs to be held accountable.

It's not a question of me being a fan of either side.  Sure, both sides need to be accountable yet these are the same CB's who won a Superbowl so I'm not sure they suddenly are less intelligent.  The rule changes indicate many defensive backfields are struggling yet I think it's ridiculous the communication from the sidelines is slow.  Why wrist bands and why was the DC blindsided by the Seattle hurry up?  Reese isn't sending in the signals.

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 12:22:29 PM »
In a broader sense -

I agree with NY Sports in that everyone is having issues covering people in the secondary.  The NFL that we all know and love has turned into the Arena league. 

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Re: Is anybody else Concerned about the "miscommunication" among the DB"s
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 12:25:46 PM »
Both have to take a hit.  I think you have to be FAIR here and not just blame the side you don't like and give a pass to the side you do like.  Everyone   needs to be held accountable.

It's not a question of me being a fan of either side.  Sure, both sides need to be accountable yet these are the same CB's who won a Superbowl so I'm not sure they suddenly are less intelligent.  The rule changes indicate many defensive backfields are struggling yet I think it's ridiculous the communication from the sidelines is slow.  Why wrist bands and why was the DC blindsided by the Seattle hurry up?  Reese isn't sending in the signals.

I think regardless of what happens with TC and the rest of the staff we will have a new DC next year (someone that will get us back to attack defense) football again
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