2012 Draft prospects: OL/ILB/OLB/CB/S/RB

[andrew_nyg]

Thought this would be interesting to share:

Rank - Name  - Pos - School - Yr - Ht - Wt  - 40 time

3  *Matt Kalil   OT 1 Southern California rJr 6-6 295 5.05
5 *Riley Reiff OT 2 Iowa rJr 6-6 300 4.94
16 *Jonathan Martin OT 3 Stanford rJr 6-6 305 5.29
22 Mike Adams OT 4 Ohio State Sr 6-6 320 5.28
55 Zebrie Sanders OT 5 Florida State Sr 6-5 307 5.25
67 Levy Adcock OT 6 Oklahoma State Sr 6-5 322 5.23
80 Andrew Datko OT 7 Florida State Sr 6-6 321 5.23
92 Nate Potter OT 8 Boise State rSr 6-6 298 5.18
95 Brandon Mosley OT 9 Auburn Sr 6-5 305 5.22
112 Matt McCants OT 10 UAB rSr 6-6 295 5.26
121 Tony Bergstrom OT 11 Utah Sr 6-5 315 5.29
134 Mitchell Schwartz OT 12 California rSr 6-5 318 5.36
150 Matt Reynolds OT 13 Brigham Young rSr 6-4 305 5.28
160 Markus Zusevics OT 14 Iowa rSr 6-5 300 5.08
177 Tom Compton OT 15 South Dakota rSr 6-6 312 5.15
188 James Carmon OT 16 Mississippi State Sr 6-7 330 5.43
206 James Brown OT 17 Troy rSr 6-4 312 5.32

10 *David DeCastro OG 1 Stanford rJr 6-5 312 5.22
18 Cordy Glenn OG 2 Georgia Sr 6-5 348 5.28
46 Kelechi Osemele OG 3 Iowa State rSr 6-5 347 5.40
66 Lucas Nix OG 4 Pittsburgh Sr 6-5 310 5.18
85 Kevin Zeitler OG 5 Wisconsin Sr 6-4 318 5.26
97 Senio Kelemete OG 6 Washington Sr 6-3 302 5.23
123 Amini Silatolu OG 7 Midwestern State Sr 6-3 324 5.42
133 Ryan Miller OG 8 Colorado rSr 6-8 298 5.32
161 Jaymes Brooks OG 9 Virginia Tech rSr 6-2 308 5.05
182 Antoine McClain OG 10 Clemson Sr 6-5 335 5.34
194 Rishaw Johnson OG 11 California (PA) rSr 6-4 308 5.18
213 Derek Dennis OG 12 Temple rSr 6-3 328 5.45
236 Desmond Wynn OG 13 Rutgers rSr 6-5 295 5.14
261 Joe Looney OG 14 Wake Forest Sr 6-3 320 5.02
263 Brandon Brooks OG 15 Miami (Ohio) rSr 6-4 343 5.32
307 Rokevious Watkins OG 16 South Carolina rSr 6-4 340 5.36
318 Chris Jacobson OG 17 Pittsburgh rSr 6-2 295 5.24


24 *Peter Konz C 1 Wisconsin rJr 6-5 315 5.16
69 Ben Jones C 2 Georgia Sr 6-3 316 5.26
108 David Molk C 3 Michigan rSr 6-2 288 5.18
129 Michael Brewster C 4 Ohio State Sr 6-4 305 5.17
151 William Vlachos C 5 Alabama rSr 6-1 295 5.25
175 Philip Blake C 6 Baylor Sr 6-2 320 5.26
205 Quinton Saulsberry C 7 Mississippi State rSr 6-2 300 5.16
237 Moe Petrus C 8 Connecticut rSr 6-2 302 5.04
245 Garth Gerhart C 9 Arizona State rSr 6-1 302 5.23
281 Grant Garner C 10 Oklahoma State rSr 6-2 292 5.36
283 D.J. Hall C 11 Texas State rSr 6-1 305 5.40
305 Scott Wedige C 12 Northern Illinois rSr 6-4 310 5.28
336 David Snow C 13 Texas Sr 6-4 295 5.28

21 *Luke Kuechly ILB 1 Boston College Jr 6-2 237 4.79
27 *Manti Te'o ILB 2 Notre Dame Jr 6-2 255 4.59
28 *Dont'a Hightower ILB 3 Alabama rJr 6-4 260 4.74
63 *Vontaze Burfict ILB 4 Arizona State Jr 6-3 250 4.67
87 Audie Cole ILB 5 North Carolina State rSr 6-4 239 4.84
119 James-Michael Johnson ILB 6 Nevada rSr 6-1 240 4.68
136 Emmanuel Acho ILB 7 Texas Sr 6-2 245 4.79
157 Mychal Kendricks ILB 9 California Sr 5-11 240 4.72
171 Chris Galippo ILB 10 Southern California rSr 6-2 250 4.74
204 Jerry Franklin ILB 11 Arkansas rSr 6-1 245 4.60
227 Bobby Wagner ILB 12 Utah State Sr 6-0 232 4.78
254 Max Gruder ILB 13 Pittsburgh rSr 6-1 230 4.72
276 D.J. Holt ILB 14 California rSr 6-0 242 4.84
292 Garrick Williams ILB 15 Texas A&M rSr 6-2 232 4.74
312 Chris Marve ILB 16 Vanderbilt rSr 6-0 242 4.86

11 Zach Brown OLB 1 North Carolina Sr 6-2 230 4.48
23 Courtney Upshaw OLB 2 Alabama Sr 6-2 265 4.76
39 Brandon Lindsey OLB 3 Pittsburgh rSr 6-2 250 4.68
45 *Brandon Jenkins OLB 4 Florida State Jr 6-3 265 4.69
51 *Jarvis Jones OLB 6 Georgia rSo 6-2 242 4.79
52 *Ronnell Lewis OLB 5 Oklahoma Jr 6-2 244 4.63
60 Bruce Irvin OLB 7 West Virginia Sr 6-2 245 4.54
70 Lavonte David OLB 8 Nebraska Sr 6-1 225 4.62
76 Travis Lewis OLB 9 Oklahoma rSr 6-2 228 4.72
83 Sean Spence OLB 10 Miami (Fla.) Sr 5-11 224 4.58
101 Kenny Tate OLB 11 Maryland Sr 6-4 220 4.73
103 Keenan Robinson OLB 12 Texas rSr 6-3 240 4.68
114 Nigel Bradham OLB 13 Florida State Sr 6-2 240 4.67
139 Adrian Robinson OLB 14 Temple Sr 6-1 250 4.73
158 Tyler Nielsen OLB 15 Iowa rSr 6-3 235 4.54
172 Tank Carder OLB 16 TCU rSr 6-2 237 4.67
191 Darius Fleming OLB 17 Notre Dame Sr 6-2 255 4.65
208 Danny Trevathan OLB 18 Kentucky Sr 6-0 232 4.68
209 Kyle Wilber OLB 19 Wake Forest rSr 6-4 240 4.70

54 Markelle Martin FS 1 Oklahoma State rSr 6-1 198 4.47
62 *T.J. McDonald FS 2 Southern California Jr 6-2 205 4.54
75 *Robert Lester FS 3 Alabama Jr 6-2 210 4.56
125 Aaron Henry FS 4 Wisconsin rSr 6-0 210 4.52
135 George Iloka FS 5 Boise State Sr 6-3 213 4.50
152 Trenton Robinson FS 6 Michigan State Sr 5-10 195 4.46
176 Eddie Whitley FS 7 Virginia Tech Sr 6-0 200 4.56
190 Tramain Thomas FS 8 Arkansas Sr 6-0 204 4.60
210 Tysyn Hartman FS 9 Kansas State rSr 6-2 206 4.64
232 Jerrell Young FS 10 South Florida rSr 6-1 209 4.57
249 Damien Jackson FS 11 Mississippi Sr 6-2 210 4.58
259 Christian Thompson FS 12 South Carolina State Sr 6-1 218 4.45
286 Corey Mosley FS 13 Virginia rSr 5-10 200 4.51
299 Sean Baker FS 14 Ball State rSr 5-11 205 4.59

44 Mark Barron SS 1 Alabama Sr 6-2 218 4.56
77 *Ray Ray Armstrong SS 2 Miami (Fla.) Jr 6-4 216 4.54
106 Antonio Allen SS 3 South Carolina rSr 6-1 202 4.57
124 Harrison Smith SS 4 Notre Dame rSr 6-2 215 4.55
167 Duke Ihenacho SS 5 San Jose State rSr 6-0 205 4.60
198 Sean Cattouse SS 6 California Sr 6-2 218 4.56
215 Charles Mitchell SS 7 Mississippi State Sr 5-11 205 4.56
233 Matt Daniels SS 8 Duke Sr 6-0 210 4.53
260 Kelcie McCray SS 9 Arkansas State rSr 6-2 195 4.48
290 Tony Dye SS 10 UCLA Sr 5-11 216 4.52
291 Sean Richardson SS 11 Vanderbilt Sr 6-2 220 4.54
308 Brandon Taylor SS 12 LSU Sr 5-11 195 4.57
315 Winston Guy SS 13 Kentucky Sr 6-1 216 4.57
347 Eddie Pleasant SS 14 Oregon rSr 5-10 210 4.54
367 Delano Howell SS 15 Stanford Sr 5-11 198 4.58

4 *Morris Claiborne CB 1 LSU Jr 6-0 185 4.45
12 *Dre Kirkpatrick CB 2 Alabama Jr 6-2 192 4.49
19 Alfonzo Dennard CB 3 Nebraska Sr 5-10 205 4.49
26 Janoris Jenkins CB 4 North Alabama Sr 5-10 182 4.46
36 Chase Minnifield CB 5 Virginia rSr 6-0 185 4.49
43 *Jayron Hosley CB 7 Virginia Tech Jr 5-10 172 4.52
50 *Stephon Gilmore CB 8 South Carolina Jr 6-1 193 4.52
64 *Johnthan Banks CB 9 Mississippi State Jr 6-1 185 4.52
72 Coryell Judie CB 10 Texas A&M rSr 5-11 190 4.48
81 Brandon Boykin CB 11 Georgia Sr 5-10 183 4.44
88 Shaun Prater CB 12 Iowa Sr 5-10 185 4.49
91 *Cliff Harris CB 13 Oregon Jr 5-11 168 4.49
99 *Josh Robinson CB 14 UCF Jr 5-10 192 4.47
110 Donnie Fletcher CB 15 Boston College Sr 6-1 195 4.53
117 Leonard Johnson CB 17 Iowa State Sr 5-10 202 4.49
126 Omar Bolden CB 16 Arizona State rSr 5-10 195 4.49
131 Casey Hayward CB 18 Vanderbilt Sr 5-11 188 4.53
139 Ryan Steed CB 19 Furman Sr 5-11 190 4.52
143 Jamell Fleming CB 20 Oklahoma rSr 5-11 192 4.54
154 Robert Blanton CB 21 Notre Dame Sr 6-0 200 4.53
155 Keith Tandy CB 22 West Virginia rSr 5-10 199 4.54
163 Trumaine Johnson CB 23 Montana Sr 6-2 204 4.52
173 Emanuel Davis CB 24 East Carolina rSr 5-10 182 4.52
178 Asa Jackson CB 25 Cal Poly Sr 5-10 188 4.40
192 Charles Brown CB 26 North Carolina rSr 5-09 205 4.49
199 D'Anton Lynn CB 27 Penn State Sr 6-0 208 4.53
211 Terrence Frederick CB 28 Texas A&M rSr 5-10 187 4.52


8 *Trent Richardson RB 1 Alabama Jr 5-11 224 4.52
33 *Lamar Miller RB 2 Miami (Fla.) rSo 5-11 212 4.42
48 *David Wilson RB 3 Virginia Tech Jr 5-10 205 4.42
58 *Chris Polk RB 4 Washington rJr 5-11 222 4.48
71 *LaMichael James RB 5 Oregon rJr 5-09 195 4.42
84 *Bernard Pierce RB 6 Temple Jr 6-0 218 4.59
93 Isaiah Pead RB 8 Cincinnati Sr 5-10 200 4.42
94 Doug Martin RB 7 Boise State rSr 5-09 210 4.48
96 *Montee Ball RB 9 Wisconsin Jr 5-11 212 4.57
111 Cyrus Gray RB 10 Texas A&M Sr 5-10 200 4.47
116 *Robert Turbin RB 11 Utah State rJr 5-09 216 4.57
128 Dan Herron RB 12 Ohio State rSr 5-10 208 4.52
142 Vick Ballard RB 13 Mississippi State Sr 5-11 220 4.58
146 Tauren Poole RB 14 Tennessee Sr 5-10 215 4.56
156 Davin Meggett RB 15 Maryland Sr 5-08 215 4.56
169 Brandon Bolden RB 16 Mississippi Sr 5-11 221 4.52
179 Jeff Demps RB 17 Florida Sr 5-08 191 4.26
186 Bobby Rainey RB 18 Western Kentucky rSr 5-07 205 4.49
193 Terrance Ganaway RB 19 Baylor rSr 5-11 240 4.62
202 Chris Rainey RB 20 Florida rSr 5-08 175 4.36
218 Lennon Creer RB 21 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-0 215 4.57
220 Mike Harris RB 22 Murray State Sr 5-10 198 4.64
234 Bryce Beall RB 23 Houston Sr 5-10 215 4.60
251 Marc Tyler RB 24 Southern California rSr 5-10 230 4.59
284 Ryan Houston RB 25 North Carolina rSr 6-2 245 4.82
298 Jason Ford RB 26 Illinois Sr 5-10 235 4.63
302 Antwon Bailey RB 27 Syracuse Sr 5-06 202 4.50
323 Keola Antolin RB 28 Arizona Sr 5-08 195 4.56
346 Lance Dunbar RB 29 North Texas Sr 5-08 205 4.60
351 Adonis Thomas RB 30 Toledo rSr 5-10 185 4.45
358 Foswhitt Whittaker RB 31 Texas rSr 5-10 202 4.49

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[NYSPORTS]

No list of DE's?

Kalil is rumored to be staying in school

Really like Cordy Glenn who remindds me of Cannon and DeCastro is supposedly really tough.

[Gmo11]

Doesn't look like a lot of 2nd round caliber Linebackers in this year's draft.  Means they better take one early or else they'll be waiting till round3 or later again.  YOU HEAR THAT REESE!? Strike early.

[Andrew]

Doesn't look like a lot of 2nd round caliber Linebackers in this year's draft.  Means they better take one early or else they'll be waiting till round3 or later again.  YOU HEAR THAT REESE!? Strike early.

Burfict could be a 2nd round steal. He had a high first round grade coming into the year. A bit crazy, but doesn't every defense need a crazy guy?

[Gmo11]

Maybe, but that guy has all kinds of problems going along with him.  I'm not sure I want that kind of trouble on my team, but the talent is undeniable.  They better have a good long interview with him before even considering drafting that guy.

[Rambo89]

Doesn't look like a lot of 2nd round caliber Linebackers in this year's draft.  Means they better take one early or else they'll be waiting till round3 or later again.  YOU HEAR THAT REESE!? Strike early.

Giants maybe in a situation where they can trade down in the first round/early second round and get that LB'er in addition to having extra picks to fill other needs.  But knowing this regime, they'll stay where they are and select another DE.

[NYSPORTS]

Doesn't look like a lot of 2nd round caliber Linebackers in this year's draft.  Means they better take one early or else they'll be waiting till round3 or later again.  YOU HEAR THAT REESE!? Strike early.

Linebackers will slip.  Maybe slip even farther considering what's happening across the league. 

[Sect122Mike]

Burfict could be a 2nd round steal. He had a high first round grade coming into the year. A bit crazy, but doesn't every defense need a crazy guy?

IMO, Burfict will not be there at the end of middle of round 2.  I think he goes in the 20s in round 1.  He is a machine out there. Once his combine numbers come in, people will forget that he has a chip on his shoulder.  also, he has not had criminal off field issues, just discipline.  My understanding is that he is a good kid, but plays rough and hard.  He will need some coaching to avoid helmet hits and fines, but he is not someone who will shoot himself in the leg.  He has some head issues, but not criminal issues. I think he will be a force in the league.  IMO, he is the best interior linebacker skill wise in the draft, now that Te'o is out.  He can play a true Mike in our current defense and has the smarts to run a defense.  He brings energy to the field too.  He will get the defense psyched. 

IMO, Martin out of Stanford is overranked.  He has trouble with fast DEs in the Pac-12. Int he NFL, they are all fast and bigger than Pac-12 DEs.  I think he would be a mistake.  I thin Mike Adams out to OSU is for real. He will also be there when we pick in round 1, unless we win the SB.  I am hoping we get a good OT or a LB. But the center out of Wisconsin is appealing.  I am going to be at the Rose Bowl (had to make an easy call of staying here for the cowboys game or flying out west for a warm new year's weekend.  my mom offering to take the kids made the decision even easier).  I will watch him against Oregon's speed rush and blitz packages. 

I think there is a great RB steal in Temple's Bernard Pierce.  He plays bigger than 220 and has good speed.  I like him a lot.  Of course I am partial to LaMichael James, who is another Sproles waiting to happen.  Both are round 3-4 guys. 

[Philosophers]

I never understand when a person says someone will be a Pro-Bowler and then they say they should be picked in a latter round.  By definition, if they're going to be that successful, they should be highly ranked.  It is not about looking backward but looking forward.  I think 31 teams wished they had taken Tom Brady in round 1.

That also goes when someone drafts a guy and other said the team reached.  Nobody knows the rankings of all the players on every team's draftboard to be able to say that intelligently.  Fans just look at internet draft sites to reach that conclusion and that is flawed.

The reality is that the sellers are all the kids getting drafted and the buyers are all the teams.  When a team makes a pick, the market has spoken.  The market is not a bunch of us sitting with our list of players from GBN Report. 

[todge]

Those are kind words for Burfict, Mike!  Let's face it though, the kid is a head case and will be off most Draft Boards and more than likely the Giants' Board as well.  This team drafts choir boys only.

I believe the Giants believe that Goff is their Mike of the future.  So I don't think they consider that a high position-of-need.  Instead, there are no true Sams on this Roster right now.  Among highly ranked Seniors - Zach Brown of NC would be a great fit here in Round #1 as would Courtney Upshaw of Alabama and Bruce Irvin of West Virginia (although the latter is probably 2nd Round material).

What if Safety Mark Barron of Alabama drops to the Giants?  How about Guard Cordy Glenn of Georgia?  How about ORTs Mike Adams of Ohio State or Andrew Datko of Florida State?  As evidenced by the Prince pick this past year, you never know who will fall to the Giants that is so highly rated that you couldn't pass him up.

[Philosophers]

I absolutely love Courtney Upshaw and think his baseline football skills translate into multiple positions.  Does that mean he can be a future Mike in the NFL and be successful?

[andrew_nyg]

Those are kind words for Burfict, Mike!  Let's face it though, the kid is a head case and will be off most Draft Boards and more than likely the Giants' Board as well.  This team drafts choir boys only.

I believe the Giants believe that Goff is their Mike of the future.  So I don't think they consider that a high position-of-need.   Instead, there are no true Sams on this Roster right now.  Among highly ranked Seniors - Zach Brown of NC would be a great fit here in Round #1 as would Courtney Upshaw of Alabama and Bruce Irvin of West Virginia (although the latter is probably 2nd Round material).

What if Safety Mark Barron of Alabama drops to the Giants?  How about Guard Cordy Glenn of Georgia?  How about ORTs Mike Adams of Ohio State or Andrew Datko of Florida State?  As evidenced by the Prince pick this past year, you never know who will fall to the Giants that is so highly rated that you couldn't pass him up.

If the Giants take that position on Goff/MLB that would be a highly irresponsible one. Goff (and for the record I was one who touted him from the time he was picked, because of his size, strength, and intelligence), has proven nothing at this level to date...not the least of which being that he can stay healthy. There is no depth behind him, and he will be returning from an ACL tear. If, in the face of all those facts, they ignore the position again...this defense will be in even more trouble than it is now.

[NYSPORTS]

Among highly ranked Seniors - Zach Brown of NC would be a great fit here in Round #1 as would Courtney Upshaw of Alabama and Bruce Irvin of West Virginia (although the latter is probably 2nd Round material).

What if Safety Mark Barron of Alabama drops to the Giants?  How about Guard Cordy Glenn of Georgia?  How about ORTs Mike Adams of Ohio State or Andrew Datko of Florida State?  As evidenced by the Prince pick this past year, you never know who will fall to the Giants that is so highly rated that you couldn't pass him up.

Those are great names and some pretty large monsters.  I like Glenn a lot and Barron is tank at safety.  A player like Upshaw is going to need really good COD numbers at that size.  He's huge.

[babywhales]

Linebackers will slip.  Maybe slip even farther considering what's happening across the league.

That goes against all avialable information on the subject related to Linebacker draft picks since 1981.    This is one of the positons if not the postion that scouts seem to be the most accurate in determining value.    Although the pool might be limited the picks are fairly consistant with where the scouts perceive them to be prior to the draft.

[Sect122Mike]

Those are kind words for Burfict, Mike!  Let's face it though, the kid is a head case and will be off most Draft Boards and more than likely the Giants' Board as well.  This team drafts choir boys only.

I believe the Giants believe that Goff is their Mike of the future.  So I don't think they consider that a high position-of-need.  Instead, there are no true Sams on this Roster right now.  Among highly ranked Seniors - Zach Brown of NC would be a great fit here in Round #1 as would Courtney Upshaw of Alabama and Bruce Irvin of West Virginia (although the latter is probably 2nd Round material).

What if Safety Mark Barron of Alabama drops to the Giants?  How about Guard Cordy Glenn of Georgia?  How about ORTs Mike Adams of Ohio State or Andrew Datko of Florida State?  As evidenced by the Prince pick this past year, you never know who will fall to the Giants that is so highly rated that you couldn't pass him up.

Burfict is a young kid with a chip on his shoulder.  He plays like a maniac on the field, and he gets called for fouls because of it.  The problem is that he has gotten a few costly 15 yarders this year for complaining to the refs.  IMO, it can be coached out of him.  He needs to grow up.  He has never been arrested, never had any rumors about alcohol or drugs, never gotten into fights with teammates.  He is a problem for the other team.  I think he will probably be like Ndamukong Suh, who also needs to be coached to control his anger. But if he produces like Suh, its almost worth it to take him.  I have seen Burfict play live twice and have a few tapes of him.  He is simply an incredible athlete. He drops back well.  He drops back better than some safeties rated highly on draft boards.  He seals the gaps, hell he seals gaps that are not there by burstign through them.  He overpowers bigger offensive linemen who are not used to players going full speed 100% of the time.  He has no off switch.  I remember the draft hubub about LaVar Arrington when he was leaping over offensive linemen at Penn State. Burfict is even more exciting.  I think he will be a top starting interior LB in the nfl. I would love to have him. 

That said, I trust the Giants to evaluate a guy's head.  Part of the problem is that he was coached by Dennis Erickson in college, whom I think very little of.  Erickson is notorious for letting his players get away with murder, look at his miami and oregon state days.  I think in the right system, Burfict could become a great leader and a guy who gets a defense up for every play.  This year has been a disaster for AZ State.  Erickson was a terrible coach and once he was fired, the team gave up.  Burfict reportedly refused to play in the last game and Erickson had to talk him into it before the game.  It was a bad scene, but maybe not because of Burfict but because of how the team was handled this season.  I'd hope the Giants meet him and interview him. 

anyway, enough about him. Tapes will start coming out soon and everyone will be able to judge him.  Just keep an open mind I ask. Also, the giants went to Manningham, so they will risk a player with a bad head if they think they can work on it with him. 

Mark Barron is a late round 2 guy, but he should be there when we pick in round 2, unless we play into February.  I would take him in round 2, but not in round 1. Mike Adams is one of my favs. I would draft him in round 1.