Osi helmet did touch/hit Rodgers helmet on his jarring hit

[bcbud]

At the tail end of his crushing hit Osi's helmet brushed the helmet of Rodgers at the very end of the play . Forget Tucks contact with Rodgers as the Qb is near the ground. Its Osi's helmet that absolutely touches Rodgers helmet after the initial impact. It does not seem worthy of a penalty. Is the rule regarding blow to the head that  inflexible or absolute? If so then the penalty was justified

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[UniHamachi]

You have to call it only if it's a helmet to helmet strike.  Incidental contact of helmets after the initial blow is not covered, otherwise any tackle that results in the defender's helmet touching the QB's helmet would be flagged. 

There's really no two ways about it -- that was a blown call.  But I've seen this blown call made all season.

[LennG]

BCBUD

 Are you a Giants fan or a fan from another team??> I've been on and off for the past day or  whenever I read one of your posts, it does seem to stick up for things that happened against our Giants. I'm not saying Giants fans cannot say that their team or their players have done something wrong, but this just seems like a never ending stream of it.

What team do YOU root for??????//

[WheresDayne]

Not sure how any Giant fan...or any football fan in general...could actually put some legitimacy to that call.  Rediculous!

[Cr00zng]

BCBUD

 Are you a Giants fan or a fan from another team??> I've been on and off for the past day or  whenever I read one of your posts, it does seem to stick up for things that happened against our Giants. I'm not saying Giants fans cannot say that their team or their players have done something wrong, but this just seems like a never ending stream of it.

What team do YOU root for??????//

I don't believe that it is a question of being a Giants fan or not, just different opinion; being a Giants fan does not mean that one could not have different opinion.

With all that media and other noise that questionable calls from last Sunday's game generated, there might be an upside to that. The Giants vs. 49ers will have different refs and arguably better than the Leavy team was; in addition, the new refs may "cave" in to the media/NFL pressure and they will be more lenient in their calls toward the Giants. In another word, somewhat biased for the Giants. I don't believe that any Giants will mind that 

[JimboWHO]

It's impossible to justify this call.  The major problem with the OP's 'helmet to helmet' contention is that from Leavy's vantage point the grazing of Roger's helmet could not be seen.  We all saw the same thing - Rogers get slammed into Tuck and then struggle to his feet.   Leavy - in a big spot - made an assumption about something he could not see.  Superstar QB getting knocked around on his home field, his team losing in the 4th quarter and Leavy is making it up as he goes along.  Just as they had all day.

The guy is incompetent.  I don't want to hear anybody try to justify this call.


JJM

[LennG]

 All I asked was if he was a Giants fan??. I asked because he seems to continually find fault in things others see as good.
Just curious that's all. Instead of celebrating our glorious win, I find things that are just nickle and diming our victory, nit picking at it's finest, continually. sure it's allowed, but would most Giants fan be doing that, at least, right now???????

[bcbud]

Lenny is just as frustrating on my side to see your response. Is my observation inappropriate? How much softer can I phrase my question? I said Osi BRUSHED and TOUCHED Rodgers helmet and asked is this rule so absolute as to justify a penalty? I said it did NOT SEEM WORTHY of a penalty. My question to you is are some Giant fans  not interested in anything but pronouncing that any call against the Giants is a crime ?  And while I am at it did you think the Giants and Rolle got away with one in the endzone on the Jennings drop?  As for the Phillips elbow to the head early in the 1st quarter did the Giants get a break there? To me it seemed like a bang bang play not worthy of a call but the announcers said it should have been a penalty . In a perfect world what should it have been?

[LennG]

Lenny is just as frustrating on my side to see your response. Is my observation inappropriate? How much softer can I phrase my question? I said Osi BRUSHED and TOUCHED Rodgers helmet and asked is this rule so absolute as to justify a penalty? I said it did NOT SEEM WORTHY of a penalty. My question to you is are some Giant fans  not interested in anything but pronouncing that any call against the Giants is a crime ?  And while I am at it did you think the Giants and Rolle got away with one in the endzone on the Jennings drop?  As for the Phillips elbow to the head early in the 1st quarter did the Giants get a break there? To me it seemed like a bang bang play not worthy of a call but the announcers said it should have been a penalty . In a perfect world what should it have been?

I meant no disrespect, only asked if you were a Giants fan?? I just found it funny that you put up a continuous stream of posts that were sort of negative towards the giants and what they really accomplished. I haven't read every post you put up, but the ones I did read, including the topics you started, were not really complimentary towards our team.

and since you did ask, NO, there is certainly nothing wrong with what you did post. Let me make that perfectly clear. You and everyone else is entitled to their opinions, their views and your postings were in a very professional manner.

I was just curious ,as to when most here are jubilant over our win, most of your posts seem to go against the grain, as one might say.

If that is your style, fine.

Again, I find nothing wrong with your posts, just curious as to where your loyalties lie??

[St Marys]

He led with his shoulder, not his head.  The only intention from Osi was to make a tackle, it was a legit hit.

[pagan43]

My take on this play was that Rodgers Flopped, and the officials bit it hook, line and sinker.

Watch the play again, especially if you can get the frontal camera. Rodgers sees Osi coming, knows that both the Ref and the Ump are behind him, throws the ball away and waits for the hit, then he goes completely limp (even kicking up his right leg a little for dramatic effect), sublty aiming his body into Tuck to make it look even more like a late hit.

Rodgers should have been given a Golden Globe award for best dramatic prat-fall following a mild bump.

Instead he received an undeserved opportunity to score 7 points, which he took.

We can agree that Rodgers is a good quarterback with a hell of an arm, above average legs, patience and game awareness that simply isn't seen in most other cubes.

But this other talent, the ability to flop at precisely the right moment to succesfully lure the officials into tossing their flags was hithertofore unknown. I AM inpressed!

pagan43

[bcbud]

As we speak the Giant game is on the DVR for the 10th time. Too bad the TV is only 32 inches. I enjoy the victories as much if not more then the next guy.  If the rule is made to not include a secondary touching of helmets then as most thought the leavy penalty was BS. But make no mistake there was a secondary grazing. Now what is your feeling of my alleged Rolle face shield?

This was a tremendous unexpected triumph but not as convincing as the day the Giants 49ed the 49ers . In this game the Pack really fumbled balls and dropped an unbelievable number of passes. I can only fathum what the outcome would have been if this wasn't so. The fumbles were partly our doing other then the Kuhn fumble caused by his own man's ass hitting Kuhn's arm/ball. The drops were mostly if not totally on them. It changed the whole games complextion. Also Rodgers had some uncharacterisic poor throws ie the Finley overthrow early for a sure TD... I would not count on the same breaks next game so I hope they correct the holes. There is more work to be done happy as all are at this moment

If you add up the breaks I think the Giants got more of them from the onsides recovery especially by Cruz after Paysinger let it go through his legs and that is despite the fumble that wasn't called.

[St Marys]

Green Bay crumbled under pressure.   The team that waltzed through the season choked when it mattered, Rodgers made some poor choices, a marked contrast to what he had been doing all season to have the guys on NFL Network and the media salivating.   Sure, they had unforced errors, but they were also forced into errors.   

There is a suggestion here that NY got lucky.   It's the words of a sore loser.   Maybe I'm missing something, but the G-Men turned up and performed.   In reply to the media circus loving their magical start, I remember an AR comment along the lines of how much better they would have been had they had an off season. How hollow these words sound today.   Football is all about execution, and when it mattered Rodgers couldn't get it done.    He simply couldn't get it done.  

Unlike Manning.

[kelston827]

In this game the Pack really fumbled balls and dropped an unbelievable number of passes. I can only fathum what the outcome would have been if this wasn't so. ...

If you add up the breaks I think the Giants got more of them...

This is a big, steaming pile of horsesh*t.

You want to talk about breaks? What about the fact that both GB touchdowns came as the direct results of gifts from the refs. This isn't homer talk, this is near-unanimous thinking from all manner of NFL fans. The Leavy fumble call and Osi penalty were HORRIBLE calls and led to 14 of their 20 points.

You can't "fathum" what the outcome would have been? I can. In a just world, the final score would have been a 37-6 Giants a** whooping. Maybe it would have been even more lopsided with the two more possessions the Giants should have had.

[Jim143]

I saw three still photos - can't remember where, sorry - but Osi and Rodger's helmets absolutely DID touch.  It was during the "whiplash" snapping of rodgers head back that his helmet hit Osi's ever so slightly, so if anything, Rodgers should have had the 15 yard penalty, not Osi. . .

If Osi didn't hit him as hard, his head would not have snapped back like that. (poor baby)  At least he has a longer off season to heal from it than Osi does.