Osi helmet did touch/hit Rodgers helmet on his jarring hit

[Jaime]

Hanson has it spot on! A crushing, cleanly delivered hit, followed by incidental, insignificant brushing contact of the helmets as a result of the falling Rodgers & the running Osi.

[Painter]

You have every reason to be suspicious of Mr.Bud, Lenn. Whatever his motive, he has an act going. As an old hand at this, you didn't miss it.

Cheers!

[BlueMoshik]

You have every reason to be suspicious of Mr.Bud, Lenn. Whatever his motive, he has an act going. As an old hand at this, you didn't miss it.

Cheers!

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Unfortunately, he is not alone. There are a couple of other "trolls" here, I suspect.

[Webster29]

Papa and Wilcots were talking about this so called hit on the Morning Drive on Sirius.   While not trying to defend the ref as they both agreed it was a lousy call they said the problem comes from the NFL.  The NFL supposedly told their referees to error on the side of caution and even if they did not clearly see the hit if there is any suspicion that there may have been a helmet to helmet hit throw the flag.  And if so I have a big problem with that.  As an official I was always taught that if you think you got you ain't got.  That flag stays in your belt unless you see the hit not assume the hit.  Suppose a flag like that costs a team a playoff game?? The Super Bowl???  Now I am all for protecting the player.  I don't want to see anyone sustain a serious injury. But isn't that why the NFL reviews these hits even if a penalty flag was not thrown???   If the ref doesnt see it keep the flag in the belt and fine and/or suspend the player after review.  In my opinion thats the way this situation should have been handled.

[CAGiantFan]

As we speak the Giant game is on the DVR for the 10th time. Too bad the TV is only 32 inches. I enjoy the victories as much if not more then the next guy.  If the rule is made to not include a secondary touching of helmets then as most thought the leavy penalty was BS. But make no mistake there was a secondary grazing. Now what is your feeling of my alleged Rolle face shield?

There is nothing in the rules against face guarding in the NFL. 

[CAGiantFan]

You have every reason to be suspicious of Mr.Bud, Lenn. Whatever his motive, he has an act going. As an old hand at this, you didn't miss it.

Cheers!

+1

Unfortunately, he is not alone. There are a couple of other "trolls" here, I suspect.

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[bighitterdalama]

C'mon, guys, lay off BCbud. He's alright. He just asked about a simple interpretation of the rules. Does a slight bump of two helmets result in a foul, that is all.

The overall rule has been in existence forever. Heck, when I played high school football forty years ago, leading with the helmet was illegal (and was so in the NFL). We referred to such a tackle as a "spear tackle," and it was an automatic 15 yard penalty. Leaving one's feet to lead with the helmet was called a "missile tackle" and was an automatic ejection from the game. This in a day and age when moves such as forearm shiver, today and automatic 15 yard penalty (and most likely an ejection), were an expected part of the game. Form tackling was taught to lead with the face mask into the center of mass of the ball carrier (including the quarterback), wrap your arms around the player, lift and drive. Any type of headbutting was illegal, but, otherwise, incidental face mask into face mask was fine.

Bc's question, if I understand it correctly, is whether the ever so slight contact on the play (if I remember correctly, a minor click between two face masks), constituted a penalty. I saw nothing there, as did about fifty million people. The NFL allows the referees on the field a great deal of leeway to interpret such plays. As such, in my opinion, the call was ridiculous. Perhaps the NFL can try to hide behind the letter of the law. If so, the league should (once again) be ashamed of itself. 

Just my take.

Big Hitter

[jimmyz]

I think bcbud is an on and off contributor at BBWC.  Put the fangs away everyone.

[MightyGiants]

I saw three still photos - can't remember where, sorry - but Osi and Rodger's helmets absolutely DID touch.  It was during the "whiplash" snapping of rodgers head back that his helmet hit Osi's ever so slightly, so if anything, Rodgers should have had the 15 yard penalty, not Osi. . .

If Osi didn't hit him as hard, his head would not have snapped back like that. (poor baby)  At least he has a longer off season to heal from it than Osi does.

You're correct Jim.   Rogers head hit Osi's not vice versa.

[pagan43]

And, Rodgers head hit Osi's helmet because he deliberately went all limp when he saw the contact coming, and flopped to the ground in the most dramatic fashion to DRAW the penalty.

The more I watch that play the more I'm convinced that Rodgers faked it spectacularly in order to bait some already sympathetic officials into extending the drive when clearly the Packers had done nothing to achieve it themselves.

Watch that right leg, watch the way his spine whips and the way he bounds off of Osi directly into the numbers of Tuck.

Fakery. Pure and Simple, and the dupes are the refs.

pagan43

[MightyGiants]

And, Rodgers head hit Osi's helmet because he deliberately went all limp when he saw the contact coming, and flopped to the ground in the most dramatic fashion to DRAW the penalty.

The more I watch that play the more I'm convinced that Rodgers faked it spectacularly in order to bait some already sympathetic officials into extending the drive when clearly the Packers had done nothing to achieve it themselves.

Watch that right leg, watch the way his spine whips and the way he bounds off of Osi directly into the numbers of Tuck.

Fakery. Pure and Simple, and the dupes are the refs.

pagan43

Here I thought he went all limp because he was practicing the old survival skill that you play dead when you are faced with an angry grizzly bear.

[bcbud]

Painter of all people I am surprised at your response

[LennG]

The NFL supposedly told their referees to error on the side of caution and even if they did not clearly see the hit if there is any suspicion that there may have been a helmet to helmet hit throw the flag.  And if so I have a big problem with that.

Big Red

 I definitely have a problem with this. I simply cannot believe it. You are absolutely correct that officials simply cannot throw a flag because something appears to be so, they HAVE TO SEE IT. It is simply unbelievable that the NFL would issue any sort of words of caution like that. It just has to be speculation and rumor.