Fascinating article about Gilbride

[UniHamachi]

Kevin Gilbride's 'option' offense in passing game fuels NY Giants

Two thoughts:

1)  In many ways, this sounds a lot like the relationship between Moore and Peyton in Indy -- Moore was the OC, but Peyton was the one making the calls on the field.

2)  Much of the calumny heaped on "Killdrive" is unwarranted as Eli has a huge hand in what play is called at the line.

The other takeaway is that this looks like a potent offense for years to come.

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[vette]

Larry and I have been trying to get this point across to Lenny and Jaime for years now.

If they don't believe the resident football genius or the President of the Kevin Gilbride Fan Club of North America, what makes you think they will believe Ralph and his fine article?

If its not cognitive bias, then they must be doing it just for fun. I have this vision of Lenny on the keyboard and laughing, BwaaaaaHahahaha!!!!!

It's wicked, I tell you! Lol

[UniHamachi]

I had known that Eli makes a lot of calls at the line (which is why I never jumped on Gilbride for not running enough) but I was surprised at to the extent Gilbride is more of an architect than on field playcaller. I also didn't realize how close Eli is to Peyton with regard to responsibility for the playcalling.

[GFICO]

Thanks for posting Uni.  Very informational.  I was not always in the Kilbride or Eli camp, but am a believer now.  This article gives me a lot of insight.  It also sheds light onto why we sometimes question plays because it looks like a blown route or miscommunication. 

GO GIANTS!!

[Jaime]

Hey President Lenn, they're playin' our song...

Calumny... I had to look that one up. That's a 50 center. I usually only need the dictionary for Paint's posts.

[BlueMoshik]

What's that you say? An article about Killdrive?

 

[Painter]

Do you think the penny will finally drop, Ed? It's not like that message hasn't been delivered here almost weekly for at least a couple of years.

Aside from those instances when blinded by *cognitive bias, both Lenn and Jaime have many redeeming qualities. The most notable is that both can take it as well as they give it. It's the thin-skinned critics who are the most irritating.

*Cognitive bias is a pattern of deviation in judgment that occurs in particular situations, leading to perceptual distortion, inaccurate judgment, and illogical interpretation. Just jerking your chains, guys.

Cheers!

[Cr00zng]

Any scheme is great when it works and based on the Giants' regular season record, the Gilbride offensive scheme works about 50% of the times. Arguably, the percentage is the same, or even less, during the playoff; the only game where it really worked was during the Packers game. In the other games the Giants offense may have had the same passing yards; however, it did not reflect in the final score. And that's all that matters at the end of the game...

Any "pass happy" offense will struggle against teams with good defenses; the niners have certainly been one such team, but statistically the Falcons defense was more of a problem for Eli and company. During the regular season the "not so good" 'skins proved to be a lot of problems for Eli and company; mid-200s passing, four picks, and lost both games. While the regular season does not matter now, you can bet your dupa that Belichick had analyzed these games and will use some of the scheme from these 'skins and other games. He can analyze these games as much as he wants to; if he doesn't have the players to stop Eli and company, then sayonara...

The resurgence of Giants defense during the playoff was probably more of a reason than the offense that they've reached the Super Bowl. If the defense performs in similar manner, then Brady and company will be in trouble.

GO GIANTS!!!

[Painter]

There's the answer, Ed. 

Cheers!

[nosebleed_section]

Yeah - I saw this one yesterday. I think it may also explain a lot of Eli's picks. I remember announcers talking about Steve Smith and the option routes he ran and how hard it was to cover. The whole offense is option routes. It sounds like if you can protect Eli, it's almost impossible to stop.

i was never a hater, mainly because of 2008. Until Plax went Ike Clanton, that was the best and most balanced Giant offense I've ever seen.

So, win or lose - I hope we draft O-Line high this year. (or sign Carl Nicks although I doubt they can fit him under the cap)

[tomeee]

What is this cognitive bias all the supreme know it is just execution right.

The might KG and TC can do no wrong.

[MightyGiants]

What I take away from the article

KG likes to run more read react routes than most offenses

KG give Eli more freedom to change the play than most teams

KG, all things being equal, prefers the pass but will go to the run if it works.

Interesting article, but it left me wanting more.


Painter,

You talk about "thin skinned"  The problem is this forum requires people to act in a mature and respectful manner.  So when you call people names (even when not directed at any individual) you do so while hiding behind the rules (sort of like a kid hiding behind his mother's skirt while taunting his playmates). 

[vette]

What I take away from the article

KG likes to run more read react routes than most offenses

KG give Eli more freedom to change the play than most teams

KG, all things being equal, prefers the pass but will go to the run if it works.

Interesting article, but it left me wanting more.


Painter,

You talk about "thin skinned"  The problem is this forum requires people to act in a mature and respectful manner.  So when you call people names (even when not directed at any individual) you do so while hiding behind the rules (sort of like a kid hiding behind his mother's skirt while taunting his playmates). 

He was just kidding Rich. We were both being lighthearted.

[jimmyz]

What I take away from the article

KG likes to run more read react routes than most offenses

KG give Eli more freedom to change the play than most teams

KG, all things being equal, prefers the pass but will go to the run if it works.

Interesting article, but it left me wanting more.


Painter,

You talk about "thin skinned"  The problem is this forum requires people to act in a mature and respectful manner.  So when you call people names (even when not directed at any individual) you do so while hiding behind the rules (sort of like a kid hiding behind his mother's skirt while taunting his playmates).

I wonder if this article doesnt explain some of the difficulties Eli had in the early of Plax and Shockey when there always seemed to be miscommunication and arms flapping.  Eli rarely if ever had the opportunity to work with those guys in the offseason as much as he wanted.  This new group of WRs, have been more agreeable to the idea and though there were struggles in 2010, they seem to have it together in 2011.  I'm sure its a difficult thing to coordinate without some time and reps but once mastered, it could indeed be difficult to defend.

[St Marys]

KG give Eli more freedom to change the play than most teams

I agree.   I wondered aloud a couple of months back just how much latitude KG gave Eli to change plays depending upon what he saw at the LOS.