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Nicks what a blessing to have
« on: February 03, 2012, 07:02:06 AM »
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It would have been understandable if Nicks, playing in his first Super Bowl, did not want to make the trip. You figure any commitment he had made was weeks old, and he could have gotten out of it by saying, “Hey, my team leaves for the Super Bowl tomorrow.”

Except Nicks booked the event after the Giants beat the 49ers in the NFC Championship.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/giving_back_5dLAxVE8AtozczSGYNHq2K#ixzz1lJrsVzyB


Rather than partying he finds time for charity. :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok:

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 07:11:34 AM »
The best thing about it is that he likely didn't want anyone to notice. He just did what was in his heart.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 07:28:33 AM »
Guys like this make it so easy to root for the Giants.  There are simply so many good people on the Giants on top of good football players.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 10:19:08 AM »
All the draft magazines called Nicks a primadonna.  Makes you wonder if you didnt just spend 20 bucks or so on a pack of lies.

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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 10:23:28 AM »
All the draft magazines called Nicks a primadonna.  Makes you wonder if you didnt just spend 20 bucks or so on a pack of lies.

Not having read any of the, can you expound on that a bit Jimmy?
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 10:23:43 AM »
That's why you can't just go off what the magazines say when it comes to these guys.  Often times you're better off believing what your two eyes tell you.

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 10:31:14 AM »
All the draft magazines called Nicks a primadonna.  Makes you wonder if you didnt just spend 20 bucks or so on a pack of lies.

Sometimes draft buzz is wrong.  Look at all the buzz on Cam Newton being a gifted but lazy athlete who will not respond well to the work needed to do well in the nfl.  All he did was have the best rookie QB season ever and did it by earning a reputation for being the first guy in every morning and the last to leave every night.  Sometime the buzz is just filler for websites and magazines. 

On Nicks, I think you might be confusing him with someone else.  I don't recall alot of talk about Nicks being a primadonna.  In fact, he was considered a very high character guy.  He was well respected and was the "mentor" to the freshman and redshirt receivers in his last season, even though he was a junior.  Hell, he got Butch Davis to love him even though he was leaving early, and that something. 

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 10:37:35 AM »
All the draft magazines called Nicks a primadonna.  Makes you wonder if you didnt just spend 20 bucks or so on a pack of lies.

Sometimes draft buzz is wrong.  Look at all the buzz on Cam Newton being a gifted but lazy athlete who will not respond well to the work needed to do well in the nfl.  All he did was have the best rookie QB season ever and did it by earning a reputation for being the first guy in every morning and the last to leave every night.  Sometime the buzz is just filler for websites and magazines. 

On Nicks, I think you might be confusing him with someone else.  I don't recall alot of talk about Nicks being a primadonna.  In fact, he was considered a very high character guy.  He was well respected and was the "mentor" to the freshman and redshirt receivers in his last season, even though he was a junior.  Hell, he got Butch Davis to love him even though he was leaving early, and that something. 

Sometimes draft buzz is wrong.  Look at all the buzz on Cam Newton being a gifted but lazy athlete who will not respond well to the work needed to do well in the nfl.  All he did was have the best rookie QB season ever and did it by earning a reputation for being the first guy in every morning and the last to leave every night. 

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 10:42:24 AM »
All the draft magazines called Nicks a primadonna.  Makes you wonder if you didnt just spend 20 bucks or so on a pack of lies.

Not having read any of the, can you expound on that a bit Jimmy?

Well Nicks was said to "think he's better than he really is" and thus would become a prima donna.  This was the Joel Buschbaum/Nolan Nawrocki publication i actually spent $20 on one time. What I noticed is that a lot of the depth of detail seemed to come from speculation or bias from other sources; not their own.  The other thing that struck me (being a known LB lover) is that every single report of the LBs seem to be identical.  They're all too small and would easily be "engulfed" (they love this word) by NFL linemen.  The other thing that annoys me is that the positives and negatives for any given player will quite often contradict each other. So and so has all the skills to be a great cover corner....the same so and so doesnt have the hips to be a great cover corner.

I guess n the end, it's all in how you interpret these publications.  We fans tend to become alarmist and when we read these things we emphasize the negative.  He cant do this; he cant do that.  I think you gotta take these books, magazines, websites with a grain of salt because i do believe in most cases they're a mere amalgam of things reported by others elsewhere.  And in no way does a negative comment about a prospect in any way imply that this is a big red flag.  It's just the fans who turn it into one.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 10:45:40 AM »
That's why you can't just go off what the magazines say when it comes to these guys.  Often times you're better off believing what your two eyes tell you.

Trust me I totally concur.  In fact I lobbied big time to pass on Edwards and go for Nicks.

I didnt even care that the guy was said to be 15 lbs over weight, short, and slow.  My eyes showed me a dynamic playmaker with elusiveness and my own recollection told me that Jerry Rice nor Michael Irvin timed fast.  I never give a rat's *ss about the measurables almost to a fault.

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 10:51:45 AM »
Thanks, Jimmy!
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 11:10:12 AM »
I will say that those publications arent completely without merit.  They're often right as often as they're wrong.  They said Nicks was the most NFL ready WR but at  the same time they imply he doesnt have the skill set to take his game up to the next level.  Thus he was slotted as the 4th or 5th best WR in a draft that was deep. 

So they were right that he is the most NFL ready.  They were also wrong in that he isnt as limited by his measurables as he would seem.

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 11:19:31 AM »
All the draft magazines called Nicks a primadonna.  Makes you wonder if you didnt just spend 20 bucks or so on a pack of lies.

Not having read any of the, can you expound on that a bit Jimmy?

Well Nicks was said to "think he's better than he really is" and thus would become a prima donna.  This was the Joel Buschbaum/Nolan Nawrocki publication i actually spent $20 on one time. What I noticed is that a lot of the depth of detail seemed to come from speculation or bias from other sources; not their own.  The other thing that struck me (being a known LB lover) is that every single report of the LBs seem to be identical.  They're all too small and would easily be "engulfed" (they love this word) by NFL linemen.  The other thing that annoys me is that the positives and negatives for any given player will quite often contradict each other. So and so has all the skills to be a great cover corner....the same so and so doesnt have the hips to be a great cover corner.

I guess n the end, it's all in how you interpret these publications.  We fans tend to become alarmist and when we read these things we emphasize the negative.  He cant do this; he cant do that.  I think you gotta take these books, magazines, websites with a grain of salt because i do believe in most cases they're a mere amalgam of things reported by others elsewhere.  And in no way does a negative comment about a prospect in any way imply that this is a big red flag.  It's just the fans who turn it into one.

I guess you are right.  As for a guy thinking he is better than he is, I guess that can be interpreted differently.  Nicks was thought by many to be a low round 2 guy and a No. 2 receiver at best.  He was thought to excel in Butch's system at NC because there were really 3 No. 1 receivers spreading the defense, but that in the nfl he did not have the skills or the speed to succeed.  I think this season put to bed the speed issue and the skills, well since day 1 he has shown he can be a No. 1.  So what I am getting to is that if Nicks thought he was good enough to be a No. 1 receiver in the nfl when he was getting drafted and that he should be round 1 pick, he was in fact thinking he was better than most scouts evaluated him.  I think he was also right, and his self evaluation and the Giants evaluation proved more accurate.  I don;t even remember the idea that he thought he was better, I just recall the high praise from Butch Davis, whom I dislike, so it stuck out in my mind. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 11:25:55 AM »
The fact of the matter is, Nick's standing with many teams were hurt by Nick's willingness to support his teammates.   Prior to his Pro-Day Nicks had hurt his hammy and was unable to train properly.  As a result Nicks didn't train for and wasn't expect to attend his Pro-Day.    Yet Nicks changed his mind shortly before the event when people told him that scouts would be coming to see him and if he didn't come there wouldn't be as many teams and scouts at the school's pro-day.   So Nicks didn't want to see his teammate's chances of making it in the NFL short changed so he agreed to participate even though he wasn't in proper physical condition to effectively deal with the tests.  So when Nicks showed up at his Pro-Day heavier than he should be and ran slower than he would like, many teams soured on him.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 11:34:50 AM »
The fact of the matter is, Nick's standing with many teams were hurt by Nick's willingness to support his teammates.   Prior to his Pro-Day Nicks had hurt his hammy and was unable to train properly.  As a result Nicks didn't train for and wasn't expect to attend his Pro-Day.    Yet Nicks changed his mind shortly before the event when people told him that scouts would be coming to see him and if he didn't come there wouldn't be as many teams and scouts at the school's pro-day.   So Nicks didn't want to see his teammate's chances of making it in the NFL short changed so he agreed to participate even though he wasn't in proper physical condition to effectively deal with the tests.  So when Nicks showed up at his Pro-Day heavier than he should be and ran slower than he would like, many teams soured on him.

Wow, I do not recall that.  Sounds like a high character guy to me.  Thats a classy move.  And if it helped him be there when we picked him, I could not be happier.