Tired of hearing about luck.

[bldevil]

"The Giants were lucky that Gronkowski had a bum ankle."  Response: our best TE played throughout the playoffs on a bum knee...without a bye week.  Then we see your bum TE ankle in the SuperBowl and raise you two ACLs.

"The Giants were lucky that Welker dropped the pass."  Was Brady a bit nervous throwing that ball? Was it our pass rush that made him nervous? Or, our safety moving in the right direction?  Luck indeed.  I'll see your lucky dropped pass and raise you a pass interference penalty not called.

"The Giants were lucky to recover two lost fumbles."  I'll see your lucky fumbles and raise you with teammates who hustle all over the field until the whistle blows.

"The Giants were lucky the Pats had 12 men on the field."  Well, if they had 11 men on the field, it's possible Cruz scores a TD on that same play and there is no fumble!

"Luck."  It's the easy refuge for losers.   

As a Giants fan in the 1960s and 70s, I always thought that the Giants had bad luck and the Cowboys had good luck.  They always seemed to have the ball bounce their way.  The truth is that they had better teams.  Same goes for the Giants now.  Miles Austin overthrown.  Luck?  No.  Don't overthrow a guy who's wide open on 3rd down when a 1st down wins the game.  Winners make their own luck and losers shake their fists at their unlucky stars.

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[MightyGiants]

In all fairness luck is always a factor in football.   The Giants enjoyed both incredible good luck as well as incredible bad luck.   The team suffered more than any other team this year in terms of injuries and how it impacted the team.   On the other hand was lucky that Victor Cruz unexpectedly emerged as a star (remember at one point the team brought in Stokely because Cruz was struggling badly in the slot).   The team also had it's fair share of luck on the field in terms of good bounces of the ball and the drops happening to the teams on the other side of the ball.   The team was also lucky that Eli stayed healthy this season, especially in light of the greatly increased number of hits he took. 

Every team has good luck and bad.  It's part of the game.   In fact with the exception of chess and checkers most games involve a certain degree of luck.   Still with luck shouldn't take away from the outstanding job the team's players and coaches pulled off this season.  Luck shouldn't detract from the fact that Reese and the front office put the team in position to win it all.   

[Stugots]

Right, it's luck that our scouting department put together a young receiving core that is arguably the best in the league.

Luck that that same scouting department drafted three pro bowl defensive ends.

Luck that our GM at the time had the foresight to go with Eli Manning instead of Philip Rivers.

Luck that we have one of the best coaches in the game right now.

Give me a break. Luck is an excuse people use when they're bitter.

[MightyGiants]

Right, it's luck that our scouting department put together a young receiving core that is arguably the best in the league.

Luck that that same scouting department drafted three pro bowl defensive ends.

Luck that our GM at the time had the foresight to go with Eli Manning instead of Philip Rivers.

Luck that we have one of the best coaches in the game right now.

Give me a break. Luck is an excuse people use when they're bitter.

Stugots I don't think you will find a past or present GM who will agree with your assertion that the draft doesn't have a major element of luck.    Heck based on your "there's no luck in the draft" assertion, Reese should be blamed for drafting Chad Jones.   Reese should also be blamed for drafting Austin who gets hurt before the season started and Prince for getting hurt and contributing virtually nothing this season.   luck is a factor in all parts of the game.

[BlueMoshik]

Luck has nothing to do with Cruz's emergence this season. The team recognized that he was a talent and gave him his chance; he took full advantage of that opportunity, through hard work and lots of effort; and he had a great QB throwing to him who also put in a lot of work. That's not luck, that's just working hard and playing good football.

Luck is when the ball bounces a certain way. It has nothing to do with a receiver dropping a pass, a QB throwing the ball too hard, a ref missing a call, or a receiver emerging as a star.

[Sect122Mike]

I think he is a decent QB but I'm not sure he is worth all the hype about him being the second coming of Peyton Manning .. Oh you are talking about a different "Luck."  Sorry, forget all that. 

[babywhales]

The Pats didn't mind luck when Billy Kundiff shanked a 30 yarder with 10 seconds left.

[madbadger]

As the old saying goes "Luck is the residue of design". It's amazing that the best teams in football can be classified as being lucky and the crappy ones unlucky. The Patriots were lucky a veteran receiver dropped a sure touchdown in the last 30 seconds of the AFC championship. They were also lucky that a veteran kicker missed a chip shot to force overtime. Blah, blah, blah, blah.......

[BlueMoshik]

The Pats didn't mind luck when Billy Kundiff shanked a 30 yarder with 10 seconds left.

Not luck. Bad kick.

But I see your larger point, which is that the Pats are in no position to complain.

[MightyGiants]

Luck has nothing to do with Cruz's emergence this season. The team recognized that he was a talent and gave him his chance; he took full advantage of that opportunity, through hard work and lots of effort; and he had a great QB throwing to him who also put in a lot of work. That's not luck, that's just working hard and playing good football.

BM,

The Giants signed and was using Brandon Stokely as the slot receiver because Cruz had struggled.   Cruz gets a second chance and excels because Stokely got hurt shortly after taking over the slot role.   You don't consider that luck?  What if Stokely didn't get hurt.   Cruz may never have been given the second chance he needed to prove himself. 

[UniHamachi]

Cruz wouldn't have even had the chance to struggle if Hixon didn't hurt himself catching a TD.  There were a lot of moving parts that led to where Cruz is today.

That's life, man.

BTW, in that vein, the Pats were lucky that Drew Bledsoe got jacked up by Mo Lewis.

[BlueMoshik]

Not really, no. I mean, Stokley got injured as soon as he got here. And Gilbride didn't like him anyway so it's not like he was going to play a major role. In any case Cruz's excellent play had nothing to do with luck and everything to do with talent, opportunity, and hard work. That's just the way I see it.

[T200]

Not really, no. I mean, Stokley got injured as soon as he got here. And Gilbride didn't like him anyway so it's not like he was going to play a major role. In any case Cruz's excellent play had nothing to do with luck and everything to do with talent, opportunity, and hard work. That's just the way I see it.

Those opportunities are, in part, a by-product of having uncontrollable and unforeseeable bounces go his way.  His talent and abilities certainly are luck. Mara all but said that if Rex hadn't spoken up about Cruz, he was going to be let go. The Giants kept him because they didn't want the Jets to have him.

[spiderblue43]

The Pats didn't mind luck when Billy Kundiff shanked a 30 yarder with 10 seconds left.

Pats didn't mind the "Tuck rule" either starting the dynasty off, instead of possibly denying it. How lucky was that against the Raiders?

[BlueMoshik]

The Pats didn't mind luck when Billy Kundiff shanked a 30 yarder with 10 seconds left.

Pats didn't mind the "Tuck rule" either starting the dynasty off, instead of possibly denying it. How lucky was that against the Raiders?

Luck?

More like blatant robbery by the refs. Walt Coleman hasn't officiated a Raiders game since then.