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NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« on: August 13, 2017, 08:42:34 AM »
Drafting a kicker in round two is stupid-   trading up to draft a kicker is even dumber-   drafting a kicker in round two that gets cut before the end of his second training camp is epic


Roberto Aguayo - K - Free Agent
Buccaneers traded up with the Chiefs to select Florida State K Roberto Aguayo with the No. 59 overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft.
The Bucs sent the Chiefs the Nos. 74 and 106 overall picks to come up for the kicker. Aguayo (6'0/207) was the best kicker in the nation for the duration of his Seminoles career, earning the Lou Groza Award as a redshirt freshman and first-team All-ACC each of the next two seasons. All told, Aguayo went 69-of-78 (88.5%) on field goals and 198-of-198 on extra points. In January, Aguayo become the first placekicker to declare early for the NFL draft since Sebastian Janikowski in 2000.
Fri, Apr 29, 2016 09:21:00 PM


LESS THAN A YEAR AND A HALF LATER:

Bucs waived 2016 second-round K Roberto Aguayo.
Aguayo will go down as one of the worst second-round picks in history, especially since Tampa traded up to get him. At least the Bucs didn't fall into a sunk-cost pit. Not ready for prime-time right from the start, Aguayo struggled last preseason before converting just 71 percent of his attempts and missing two extra points as a rookie. Aguayo's fate was sealed after he claimed to be "unlucky" to miss a PAT and a field goal in Friday's preseason opener. Clearly in need of time to clear his head, Aguayo will likely slip through waivers unclaimed. Aug 12 - 12:18 PM
Source: Rick Stroud on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/11379/roberto-aguayo
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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2017, 01:26:30 PM »
that became a real mess, moving up and in less than 2 years he is gone.

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2017, 02:00:21 PM »
We had our own "worst Draft; Joe Don Looney, 1st Round, 1964.  He didn't make it out of camp! :'(

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2017, 02:54:48 PM »
How about a first round pick who developed Spinal Stenosis and loved to do back flips. 
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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2017, 04:16:12 PM »
Claimed off Waivers by the Bears


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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2017, 07:07:20 PM »
Claimed off Waivers by the Bears


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Reasonable pickup, a change of scene could save his career.

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2017, 08:10:37 PM »
gary beban ucla no. 1 pick never play a game in the nfl.

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2017, 11:50:16 AM »
Ryan Leaf.
The San Diego Chargers needed a new quarterback after having scored the fewest touchdowns in the league in the previous season. To obtain the second draft pick, the team traded its third overall pick, a future first round pick, a second round pick, and three-time Pro Bowler Eric Metcalf to the Arizona Cardinals, guaranteeing the Chargers the right to draft whichever of the two quarterbacks Indianapolis did not take first.

Everyone then thought this was too much & they were correct as it turned out to be one of the major the thorns (admittedly there were many) that hurt San Diego for a long time after that draft.

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2017, 12:39:15 PM »
Aguayo was one of the few sure things in that draft.

Translation: there are no sure things in the draft.
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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2017, 01:57:25 PM »
Being that he is a kicker it makes the trade up worse than most.  It's one thing to trade up for a QB and fail.  As we know if you hit with that move you change the fortunes of your franchise.  Failing does set your franchise back but the risk/reward ration is more balanced.  It would take a lot to convince me that any kicker is worth trading away multiple mid-round picks.  Even if you hit on that kicker is that going to significantly change the fortunes of your franchise?  Is that kicker ever going to be so much better than every kicker that he is worth those picks?

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2017, 02:08:48 PM »
Being that he is a kicker it makes the trade up worse than most.  It's one thing to trade up for a QB and fail.  As we know if you hit with that move you change the fortunes of your franchise.  Failing does set your franchise back but the risk/reward ration is more balanced.  It would take a lot to convince me that any kicker is worth trading away multiple mid-round picks.  Even if you hit on that kicker is that going to significantly change the fortunes of your franchise?  Is that kicker ever going to be so much better than every kicker that he is worth those picks?

That's exactly my point.  You can miss on a pick and often high QB picks will fizzle.   In this case they made a questionable move drafting a kicker in round two.  They made it worse by trading away picks to move up to draft a kicker in round two.   The final kick in the pants is they did all that and they didn't even get a good kicker much less the sort of world beater needed to justify what they had to do to draft him. 
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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2017, 02:54:10 PM »
OK, not quite as bad, because it was the 18th overall pick and we didn't trade up to get him but let's not forget......

Rocky Thompson, a running back/wide receiver, played college football at Hartnell Community College and West Texas State, where he was the roommate of future Dallas Cowboys star Duane Thomas. Thompson was a world-class sprinter who won the British Athletics Championships 100 metres in 1970 with a time of 10.1 seconds.[1] Representing Bermuda, he reached the final of the 100 metres at the 1970 British Commonwealth Games, finishing sixth.

The Giants drafted Thompson in the first round of the 1971 NFL Draft with the 18th overall selection. He appeared in all 28 regular-season games for the Giants in 1971 and 1972, primarily as a kickoff returner, but his NFL career went sour, only scoring three touchdowns in his career.[2] The Giants released Thompson before the start of the 1974 season.[3] Deadspin ranked Thompson as the 7th worst NFL player of all time noting "Shortly after Thompson was selected in the first round of the 1971 draft out of West Texas State, The New York Times reported that Rocky Thompson … is listed in Bermuda and in official Brit track records as Ralph Gary Symonds. Sadly, neither Rocky nor Ralph could muster more than three career touchdowns."[4]

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 03:41:25 PM »
OK, not quite as bad, because it was the 18th overall pick and we didn't trade up to get him but let's not forget......

Rocky Thompson, a running back/wide receiver, played college football at Hartnell Community College and West Texas State, where he was the roommate of future Dallas Cowboys star Duane Thomas. Thompson was a world-class sprinter who won the British Athletics Championships 100 metres in 1970 with a time of 10.1 seconds.[1] Representing Bermuda, he reached the final of the 100 metres at the 1970 British Commonwealth Games, finishing sixth.

The Giants drafted Thompson in the first round of the 1971 NFL Draft with the 18th overall selection. He appeared in all 28 regular-season games for the Giants in 1971 and 1972, primarily as a kickoff returner, but his NFL career went sour, only scoring three touchdowns in his career.[2] The Giants released Thompson before the start of the 1974 season.[3] Deadspin ranked Thompson as the 7th worst NFL player of all time noting "Shortly after Thompson was selected in the first round of the 1971 draft out of West Texas State, The New York Times reported that Rocky Thompson … is listed in Bermuda and in official Brit track records as Ralph Gary Symonds. Sadly, neither Rocky nor Ralph could muster more than three career touchdowns."[4]

Sounds similar to what was once said about Moe Berg, a catcher from the late 20's and 30's who also worked as a spy because he could speak 7 languages. 

A teammate once said "He can speak seven languages, but he can't hit in any of them."

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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 06:18:31 PM »
In 1979, the Saints used their 1st round pick on a punter. 2 years later, they choose George Rogers with the very first pick, leaving Lawrence Taylor for the Giants!!!

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Re: NGT- One of the worst draft moves in NFL history
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 09:30:52 PM »
OK, not quite as bad, because it was the 18th overall pick and we didn't trade up to get him but let's not forget......

Rocky Thompson, a running back/wide receiver, played college football at Hartnell Community College and West Texas State, where he was the roommate of future Dallas Cowboys star Duane Thomas. Thompson was a world-class sprinter who won the British Athletics Championships 100 metres in 1970 with a time of 10.1 seconds.[1] Representing Bermuda, he reached the final of the 100 metres at the 1970 British Commonwealth Games, finishing sixth.

The Giants drafted Thompson in the first round of the 1971 NFL Draft with the 18th overall selection. He appeared in all 28 regular-season games for the Giants in 1971 and 1972, primarily as a kickoff returner, but his NFL career went sour, only scoring three touchdowns in his career.[2] The Giants released Thompson before the start of the 1974 season.[3] Deadspin ranked Thompson as the 7th worst NFL player of all time noting "Shortly after Thompson was selected in the first round of the 1971 draft out of West Texas State, The New York Times reported that Rocky Thompson … is listed in Bermuda and in official Brit track records as Ralph Gary Symonds. Sadly, neither Rocky nor Ralph could muster more than three career touchdowns."[4]


Still not as bad as the Joe Don Looney draft! :yes: :yes: :yes: