Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: kingm56 on Today at 08:13:40 AMI believe this paradigm is somewhat outdated; a lot depends on the HC's credibly and past successes.  For example, if a HC wins CoY, or a SB, they'll be given more opportunities to press the QB reset button.  The rookie salary cap has also made it dramatically easier to move on from drafted QBs; it's no longer takes 5-years to recover from a poor QB draft decision. 

For a few example, McVay will  hit the reset button very soon to replace Stafford (injury/age).  Does anyone believe his job is in jeopardy? It wasn't when he hit the reset button from Goff to Stafford.  It's likely he'll need to hit the reset button 3x in 6 years.  Mike Tomlin hit the reset button on Kenny Pickens after one year, and only "solved" the issue for one season...he'll have to address it again next year.  Is his job in jeopardy? Shanahan hit the QB reset button 3x, going from Garoppolo-to-Lance-to-Purdy; his job was never in jeopardy. 

Of course there's going to be exceptions.

Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 08:38:39 AMBut at the same time if they make an aggressive move and draft a guy that turns out to be "just OK" or worse, it's going to light the dumpster on fire much more quickly. It's going to be interesting for sure.

They know the risk, but the reward will outweigh the risk for them, I think. If they've done their proper diligence which it seems they have.

I truly believe that fans are focused on the all the mock drafts, media pundits, etc., and the teams are paying a lot of attention to the interviews, time with a prospect watching video together and breaking down film, etc., and being observational as to leadership skills.  This is where I think JJ is distancing himself from Maye.  Unless a team jumps the Giants and drafts JJ, I believe he is going to be a Giant at 6.

DJ has looked "shocked" at being an NFL QB.  He works tirelessly but the stage looks too big for him.  JJ is going to embrace being an NFL QB and his teammates are going rally around him.

Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 08:32:05 AMI can see them remaining calm as picks 1, 2, 3, happen, but then if their guy (whomever it may be) is there at 4 or 5, I can see them getting so excited that they pull the trigger on a trade.  At that point, adrenaline will be overwhelming for them, not to make a move.

I think you are right.  They want their QB because I think they want to be here working for the Giants for a long time. 

But at the same time if they make an aggressive move and draft a guy that turns out to be "just OK" or worse, it's going to light the dumpster on fire much more quickly. It's going to be interesting for sure.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 24, 2024, 06:56:35 PMYeah the only time I won't hold it against them is when a coach leaves to another program and so they go elsewhere.

I agree with you there.

I think this is a 1st round in which you will want to follow it from pick 1 - 32.  I can see the Giants making a QB pick at 6, then say at pick 24, maybe moving up from round 2 to get their guy, say a big WR like a Brian Thomas.  They may think that while they have some holes in other places, filling QB and WR close the biggest ones and allow them to field a team they can build off of assuming their OL coach can work wonders with the OL.  I would not be surprised. 

I think the one thing teams are really enamored with him is his football mind and his personality.  This guy wreaks leadership and enthusiasm beyond what is known to men.  His teammates will rally around him.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on Today at 08:24:38 AMI like JJ a lot. I think he's going to be a real good, not great player. JJ kinda let the cat out of the bag, no? The fact they spent more time with him than anybody is revealing.

I don't believe so; instead, I believe it's a reflection of the reality and the Giants relative draft position.  In short, of the top QBs, JJ is the most likely to still be available at #6.  It doesn't make much sense to invest time in Williams or Daniels when it's highly unlikely the Giants will have a chance to draft either. 

I can see them remaining calm as picks 1, 2, 3, happen, but then if their guy (whomever it may be) is there at 4 or 5, I can see them getting so excited that they pull the trigger on a trade.  At that point, adrenaline will be overwhelming for them, not to make a move.

I think you are right.  They want their QB because I think they want to be here working for the Giants for a long time. 

I think Schoen and Daboll are desperate for a QB. They do not want their legacy tied to a QB they inherited who is limited in many ways. I do not think this is a smokescreen. To spend so much time evaluating these QBs would not make sense if they were not serious. That being said, the meaningless wins after they had no chance to make the playoffs put them in a tough position. To get the QB they want, they might have to sacrifice picks that the team does need. I think they would do that knowing the importance of finding that QB to lead the Giants in the future. But I also think to do that, to give up picks, they have to get the approval of the owner. That is where this gets tricky and we might see them draft a wide receiver or someone else who might be very very good, but will not alter the dynamic of the team. That is why tonight is very critical for the Giants going forward. We shall all see soon enough.