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#1
They were never going to try and re-sign Leo.  They wanted to re-sign Barkley but the money wasn't going to match up once they found out that WHOOPS there actually was a large market for Saquon.

Makes plenty of sense.  And I happen to agree with it- I think it would be an awful look to just do a wholesale firesale at that point in the season. 
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: J.K. Dobbins
March 27, 2024, 01:51:48 PM
Nah.  Just draft a stud in round 4-6.  It's easy and super cost effective.
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Daboll at the owner's meeting
March 26, 2024, 07:35:32 PM
I don't find it all that strange or disturbing.  There's a whole lot more to OC duties than just calling plays.
#4
Quote from: Painter on March 22, 2024, 09:32:32 PMI'm not fond of the idea of a leader touting his leadership skills any more than I am in judging or passing blame on someone I don't know and have never met. I might find that to be a bit presumptuous and possibly self-aggrandizing, which would not correspond to my notion of leadership. Of course, to each his own.

Indeed, I have never regarded leadership as something to be claimed. More often, I find it reflected in a willingness of others to follow another in their own best interest whether or know it at the time. It may exhibit as a natural quality with some, but quite often it's evident only as a unique event.

Cheers!


This was very much in line with my thoughts while reading through this thread.  People who tout their own leadership skills usually (as in, I'd say 95% of the time) are the ones with the enormous egos that their subordinates roll their eyes at when they're not looking their direction.
#5
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 22, 2024, 05:24:07 PMhttps://x.com/realtannenbaum/status/1771144832263639427?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

I'm sorry but if that's the evidence count me out.  That is about as routine as a one-read play can get in that situation.  There was no reading of the defense on that play.  And to top it off the throw wasn't all that perfect either- he didn't lead the WR past the sticks.  If I was this guy I'd be embarrassed by this tweet.

And I'm no JJ hater.  I think he's actually gonna be one of the better QBs.  But not because of plays like this.
#6
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 21, 2024, 03:16:00 PMI heard an ESPN Eagles beat reporter proclaim the Eagles are getting a "Pro Bowl running back" by signing Barkley.  Would you agree?

Yes.  I guess we'll see.  If he's healthy, there's no doubt in my mind he's still a top RB in the league- even after losing a step due to injury.  And he just got paid like one- despite a huge majority of Giants fans on this board proclaiming he'd never see that kind of top-end RB money. 
#7
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 21, 2024, 12:10:56 PMI think what happened with Hawkins, was offenses thought little of the rookie CB that they assumed they could throw his way and the WR would win. But he showed he could defend. After several games, savvy offensive coordinators found weaknesses in his game and exploited them. Hawkins is a good kid with a great attitude and talented. He found out that the NFL was quicker all around and that offenses key on any shortcoming they find on him. Hopefully, he's been studying tape and getting mentally prepared this off-season so that he continues to improve his game. I think in another year of seasoning, he's going to be very good. It's not only difficult to make the jump to the NFL, but CB is one of the harder positions to become skilled at. I have faith he will improve with experience

So here's my follow-up question for those that have been tracking CB play way better than I have- why is it such a huge need to bring another CB in opposite Banks if we have a promising 2nd year player there?  I'd assume something must have happened with his play to warrant this much concern- I just haven't been tracking it.  Thanks for the help.
#8
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 21, 2024, 12:09:13 PMDies that stat by any chance have a breakdown of where they were hit and by whom?

There is a difference when a 300 lb. DT hits a RB in the backfield compared to a 180 CB hitting him 5 yards past the LOS when the RB has hit full running speed.    That was really a rhetorical question as I am sure they dont break that down.

Just like Jones faced pressure quicker than other QBs, I am pretty positive Barkley was getting hit earlier than most other RBs.  I really dont need stats to tell me what I regularly saw - DL in the backfield making contact within a step or two of Barkley receiving the hand off. 

It's all good, he's gone and the team is moving to a pass 1st offense. 

Good point.  Are there stats for where initial first contact is made by defenders?  I'd be shocked if Barkley wasn't near the top of those lists pretty much the entire time he's been a Giant.  BIG difference in yards after contact, I'd imagine, depending on where that 1st contact occurred- after a RB has gathered some momentum or before they've ever had a chance to get out the gate (as we all know has been the case with Barkley so often with our awful OLs). 
#9
I'll add another interesting thing I've thought about - there are a certain class of elite athletes that are praised for, essentially, being a di** - being so hyper competitive that they wear their emotions on their sleeves a bit....Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Kobe, etc.  Because of injuries Saquon certainly hasn't come close to reaching those levels, but I at least find it interesting that anything at all he says that is not completely vanilla is seen so negatively by NY Sports fans....  why is that?  I have no clue.  I imagine, psychologically, it's because of the spot he was drafted, the overall shittiness of the team, and the expectations placed on him - all things completely out of his own personal control.
#10
Seeing so much chatter about CB need and I must admit I did not track the CB position last year very well.  I thought Tre Hawkins had looked really promising paired with Banks- did he fall off as the year went on, get injured, or other?  I just remember early in the year the talk was that he looked even better than Banks.

From the chart we definitely need another space-eating DT and a #1 WR- preferably someone with some height it seems.  And of course, the G positions can always use another young body and a scatback type RB would likely be another good add.
#11
I think a lot of fans can't separate the fact that Barkley didn't draft himself and he never said anything close to what Gettleman said "touched by the hand of God", "gold jacket" talk.  What Gettleman did and said put a weird stain on Barkley for a lot of fans, despite him having absolutely zero to do with any of that. 

The facts are he did put this team on his back, was outstanding in the locker room and in the community, and worked his ass off through significant injuries to continue to put this team on his back.  He would have liked nothing more than to have helped bring another Super Bowl to NY and stayed a Giant for life.  But, that's not how it worked out.  It is what it is.

I wish him all the individual luck in the world and also hope his new team sucks total ass despite his success  :ok:   Here's to hoping.
#12
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 20, 2024, 01:41:50 PMAccording to Breer

" Will be relatively quiet in Columbus, with so many high-end draft prospects choosing to stay in school, no GMs or HCs scheduled to be there."

Interesting and thanks for info- didn't realize OSU didn't have it's usual slate of prospects this year.  Very unusual!
#13
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 20, 2024, 01:37:40 PMIt's funny, I often hear about top prospects working out at their Pro Days just to bring the top brass and scouts from NFL teams to the Pro Day.  The idea is that the superstar does this to help out his less talented teammates as they get to do their workout in front of more important people.

Yeah I think that's the case for smaller schools.  I'd assume it's not a problem at OSU's Pro Day to get the top NFL folks out there.
#14
Adisa Isaac- nice.  I liked him at Penn State and think he actually has a lot of room to potentially grow as a pass rusher.  Good natural ability and was a bit overshadowed in his time at PSU. 
#15
I'm with Rich- I'm completely tuning out any noise regarding the OL.  I simply can't get myself to care about hearing about who we've added, who we've lost, who may be moving spots, who we may or may not draft, who the new coach is, how great he's supposed to be, etc.  I have zero expectations of our OL ever being good for the rest of my lifetime at this point (and I'm not all that old... :doh: ).  I'll watch with my eyes once the season starts and we'll go from there.