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#1
Big Blue Huddle / Peter King's Annual Mock Draft
April 24, 2023, 02:53:36 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/24/fmia-peter-king-mock-draft-bryce-young-panthers/?cid=fmiatw

FWIW, if it went down like this I'm certain we'd either take the gift horse we'd be staring at or would have traded up for a player not on my draft board because I thought he'd be gone in the top 15 rather than one pick before us!
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Potential trade up partners
April 22, 2023, 06:12:33 AM
At his annual pre-draft press conference Joe Schoen said "If it's the right player and the value aligns, I'd move up. If it was a future pick, I would do that, too."

Even so, the costs get higher the further up you go so I'd take the cut off point to be going up no more than 8 places, to 17th overall and look for trade partners with differing needs to our own.

However, even though giving up picks is risky that beats having our main targets taken off the board in front of us potentially leaving us with our 5th choice at CB and 4th choice at WR...

Using the Rich Hill Trade Value Chart (not to be confused with the Jimmy Johnson one!) our picks have the following value:
#25 - 230
#57 - 96
#89 - 46
#128 - 19
#160 - 10
#172 - 8
#209 - 3
#240 - 2
#243 - 1
#254 - 1

NB: One thing to bear in mind is that team's consider future picks as having only around half the value as current year's ones so there is always an overpay no matter which chart is used!

Pittsburgh
Pick #17 - 296 (difference of 66)

Their biggest needs are on both lines with both T's, C & NT easily upgradeable. Depending on who is available at T at #17 they might be a willing trade partner as they should be able to snag the top C (John Michael Schmitz) or pure NT (Mazi Smith) at 25. While they don't have any picks in the 5th or 6th rounds, they already have two 2nd round picks so may be looking to acquire a high future pick plus fill in their late round gaps on day three.
Potential package: #25, #160, #172 plus next year's 3rd round pick

Tampa Bay
Pick #19 - 278 (difference of 48)

Though they share a need at WR, their priorities are likely at RG & EDGE. The former definitely offers better value at #25 as they could likely still get the top player at the position (O'Cyrus Torrence) there. They have a plethora of day three picks but are without a 4th round pick. A package containing a future high pick plus our 4th round pick this year may be enough to get a deal done.
Potential package: #25,#128 plus next year's 3rd round pick

Seattle
Pick #20 - 269 (difference of 39)

They are a team always willing to make a deal. While they have a shared need at CB both NT & G may be higher priorities for them. Like Pittsburgh, they already have a pair of 2nd round picks so future picks have more appeal to them.
Potential package: #25 plus next year's 3rd round pick

LA Chargers
Pick #21 - 261 (difference of 31)

Though they share a need at CB & WR, their biggest need may be TE and they could obtain greater value at that position  at #25 with 3 or 4 potential 1st rounders available at that position. They only have 7 picks - one per round - so will likely prefer additional picks this year which would likely leave us with starting spots we can't fill.
Potential package: #25, #128, #160 & #240

The needs of Detroit, Baltimore, Minnesota and Jacksonville too closely mirror ours for them to be natural trading partners. These are the teams we'll likely need to jump!
#3
Been a while since I contributed to this board save for the odd bit so thought I'd share some thoughts on who to look out for in tomorrow's game with my usual Giants-only slant to things

QB
Don't care. By all accounts and from what I've seen at practice (very limited amounts) those at the game have been very disappointing all week. Like it or not (and I do!) DJ's the man going forward and no matter how much bleating you do that ain't gonna change!

RB
Star of the show is Tulane's Tyjae Spears (A22) who I discovered late season but consider an explosive every down option at the next level. He's been terrific all week busting countless long runs and getting open in the passing game and making more plays. IF we lose Saquon, he's on my list as a potential replacement. He even does the red zone wildcat QB stuff! I can't see him being available beyond the top end of R3 though, possibly not even after R2 after this showing and what he put on 'tape' last year for the Green Wave.

Retaining Saquon and looking for a speedy change-up who can line up out wide and catch the ball too Georgia's Kenny McIntosh (N6) stands out to me as offering a skill set we could use just as his former teammate James Cook did before the last draft. He is the sort of surprise pick I could see us making with our second 3rd round selection. I feel the need, the need for speed!

WR
The money shelled out on Kenny Golladay was wasted. He doesn't fit and he won't be here much longer. Darius Slayton is an FA and our only deep threat. Whether he's back depends on what others offer as we won't be breaking the ban. Isaiah Hodgins was a late season find off the scrap heap. He not only should be back, he looks like a solid #2 option! In the slot, Richie James played well after season ending injuries to Sterling Shepard and R2 pick Wan'dale Robinson. All three will likely return. With the exception of Hodgins we lack height and without Slayton we lack any semblance of outside speed. Both are things we need to address, preferably with one player! While tempting to splash the cash and trade picks for a #1 receiver we really need to develop our own stars!

Houston's Nathaniel Dell (A2) and Michigan State's Jayden Reed (N1) stood out all week as the best WR in attendance. Dell is speedy and exciting, just not what we need as he's tiny (5'8 2/8", 163lb's)... Reed is 5'10 ¾", 191lb's so pretty average size wise.  Of the taller 6'+ guys, keep an eye on SMU's Rashee Rice (A11), Missisippi's Jonathon Mingo (A18) and Iowa State's Xavier Hutchinson (A4) though none may be the burner I'd prefer. The Athletic's Charlotte Carroll dropped the tidbit that Schoen had seen Princeton's Andrei Iosivas (N9) on YouTube and impressed him on the first day of practice with some big plays deep down. Clearly, he'll need some development but at 6'2 7/8", 217lb's with 4.3 speed he has all the tools to go a lot higher than a lot of people expect.

TE
Daniel Bellinger was everything we could hope he would be and more. Smart, tough and dependable! He needed route development having ran very few of them in college and he still does but he's on his way to being a stud and he fits this offense to a tee. Behind him? Not so much. Nick Vannett is nothing but a blocker. Lawrence Cager, nothing but a receiver. Chris Myarick is a nice story but that's about it. Help is needed. It might be possible to land a superstar receiving TE who can also block but I don't see how upgrading a position that didn't need a starter upgrade would help fill the multitude of holes elsewhere...

Oregon State's Luke Musgrave (A88) is the best TE prospect in Mobile and expected to go in R2. Too rich for my blood...  Purdue's Payne Durham (N87) isn't far behind though. Cincinnati's Josh Whyle (N81) might be of interest to us on day three as he looks to be able to do a bit of everything pretty well.

OT
At LT we're set for a long, long time with Andrew Thomas. RT? Let's just say that the performance of Evan Neal was underwhelming but his injuries didn't help. I'd not expect us to move him inside after a year – remember he was a damn fine RG as a freshman and veteran Mark Glowinski only has a year left on his contract– but if we did Tennessee's Darnell Wright (A58) would be a nice fit giving us a near 700lb right side. Smart, tough, dependable? Yep. He's also a cert to go by the middle of R2.

Small-school prospects of note are South Dakota's Cody Mauch (N70) and Tennessee-Chatanooga's Curtis McClendon (N52). Both have been played at multiple positions in practice though quite where they will settle in the NFL is anyone's guess. Despite getting some hype, both will likely take some time to acclimatise to the speed/power of the NFL

OG
Lots of good Guards on show but most of them only have experience on the left side. Sure, we've had a revolving door at LG for a few years with multiple starters and just as many injuries but having invested an R3 pick in Joshua Ezeudu last year I expect him to be given every opportunity to take the job full-time rather than being drafted over immediately.

If we were to take someone at LG I'd also expect them to also to have extensive experience at C so Notre Dame's Jarrett Patterson (N75) and Texas Christian's Steve Avila (A79) are foremost in my mind. Can't say I love either though...

Looking at the right side, Florida's O'Cyrus Torrence (A56) stands out. Apart from being huge he's rather good having made the step up to SEC football last year to follow his HC Billy Napier after starring at Louisiana Tech. That said, I don't see the point of paying Glowinski $8m guaranteed and then either replacing him with an R1 pick – which is likely what Torrence will be – or having an R1 pick sit on the bench or play LG and put Ezeudu on the bench again.

So who do I like? Alabama's Emil Ekiyor (A55). He's a really solid RG prospect who can get movement both in line and gets out easily to the second level. In practices he also proved he could also play C having worked hard on it with long-time Bengals OL Coach Paul Alexander. Ticks the "smart, tough dependable" boxes nicely as an early day three pick.

C
I see this is one of our biggest needs. The Giants clearly didn't want Feliciano playing G so even when we had injury issues at both spots he stayed in the pivot while Gates – who in my view is a far better C than G – moved into that role part-time. Feliciano offered something Gates really doesn't – an ability to makes blocks at the second level – so I wonder if that is something Daboll needs more than an in-line presence? Feliciano kinda sucked in pass pro though, hence the need for a new young C...

IF Feliciano isn't back, there are some really good C prospects in this draft and Minnesota's John Michael Schmitz (A74) is probably the best IOL in the draft let alone top C. He's had a dominant practice week (and college career for that matter!) both in pass protection, run blocking in-line and at the second level including on screens. My lone misgiving is that he'll be 24 before the draft and Schoen didn't draft anyone older than 22 before the start of last season until the 6th round! Chances of Schmitz lasting that long are slim and none and slim left town. He might not make it out of R1 and he definitely ain't making it to our pick at 57... Trade down option? He'd make the whole line better.

Michigan's Olusegun Oluwatimi (N55) is a pure C and also will be 24 before training camp starts. I'm not overly enamoured of him despite his notching individual accolades (Outland Award and Rimmington Tropy winner) playing on the nation's best college OL.

1T/NT
There are a half dozen players I really like this year and one of them is in this game. However, we have ALL-PRO Dexter Lawrence so while we need depth – even being kind to him, Justin Ellis absolutely sucked –  I can't see this being a position we'd consider until day three.  Shame as Wisconsin's Keeanu Benton (N95) is a really good player who has had a really good practice week. I'd imagine he'll end up taken by the mid-point in R2 at latest. While he can play 3T – something we do need help with to spell Leonard Williams – I can't see that being his best spot in the pro's and he definitely isn't going to play 5T so it's too hefty a price to pay for him in my eyes.

Coastal Carolina's Jerrod Clark (N15) is a 343lb'er who was seen getting a fist bump from Wink after a couple of great reps yesterday. While Schoen stuck to big conferences last year with his draft picks that's not a guarantee this time around with more time to work with the scouts. We also know for sure Schoen's seen him in person as he was scouting now Ravens TE Isaiah Likely at games in 2022. See what you think.

3T/5T
I see this position as a huge need. I love Leonard Williams but he's starting to pick up injuries now. His willingness to play through them is admirable but it definitely impacted upon his ability to play the run straight at him. Once Nick Williams went down depth here was non-existent and teams ate us up inside in the running game whenever LW took a rest and we got no push in the passing game either. The dominance of both the Eagles and Cowboys OL's means we simply have to get better on the inside and I see this as the key spot we need to do so whether that's simply by adding a great depth piece or LW's successor a year or two early.

Georgia Tech's Keion White (N6) will probably be gone long before we're on the board having recently been named in Daniel Jeremiah's top ten but you never know. He's played everywhere from 3T to 5T and his best fit might be as a 4-3 DE. He's got the strength to overpower as well as out-quick interior OL's and the speed to make plays around the edge having made Bruce Feldman's 'freak' list due to his athletic prowess. Available at 25 he might look awfully nice in blue as he could not only spell/eventually succeed LW he could also give a hand to Ojulari and Thibodeaux livening up QB's from the outside!

Bowling Green's Karl Brooks (N13) had rushed primarily from the outside in a 4 man front with great success despite being 303lb's until he got to Mobile but he's had some excellent reps inside at 3T and caught just about everyone's eye. I can't say I'd seen him at all heading into Mobile but the sages of the community like Daniel Jeremiah and Dane Brugler were talking him up and seemingly he seemingly hasn't disappointed. If his athletic prowess lives up to the hype he could well be an early R2 pick and a trade down option for the Giants.

Northwestern's Adetomiwa Adebawore (N99) appeals as a schematic fit having predominantly played 5T but reduced down to 3T more and more as the season progressed. While he may be shorter than ideal at 6'1 5/8 he's 284lb's built long and fast (34" arms, 82 1/8" wingspan) and knows how to use those attributes. Can't get more smart, tough and dependable than kids from Northwestern either! He's on my watch list for the top of day three.

Two SEC stalwarts Alabama's Byron Young (A47) and South Carolina's Zacc Pickens (A3) appear to be more 3T/1T types but could also be on the Giants minds. Young reminds me of former Giants player Cornelius Griffin in both his size and skill set. I think he has the movement skills to play some outside and you know Dabes has the inside info with his Bama links! Pickens is highly though of by Talkin' Giants podcast host Bobby Skinner. While I was underwhelmed zeroing in on him last weekend for the first time v Arkansas I have three other games to view and Bobby knows his onions (and was watching practices in Mobile all week). I'd expect both to go by the end of R3.

EDGE
Having invested heavily in Thibodeaux and Ojulari we have our starting pairing for the present and long into the future. Or at least we will if Ojulari can shake the injury bug that afflicted him last year from the very start and never stopped biting! Behind them I'd expect Jihad Ward back as the leader of the group but he shouldn't be the 3rd guy – he can stop the run but he makes nothing happen as a pass rusher. We can definitely upgrade O'Shane Ximines as the 4th guy. Sadly for me Elerson Smith hasn't panned out. He had all the physical/athletic tools, he just can't get and stay on the field... Time to move on methinks.

Wink seemingly prefers the guys in the 250lb+ range who can push the T's back rather than relying solely on speed to beat them outside. Keep an eye on Auburn's Derrick Hall (A29), Notre Dame's Isaiah Foskey (N7) and Army's raw Andre Carter II (N34). The headline show will be Iowa State's Will McDonald IV (N9) but he's both a little smaller than a Wink backer and also likely to go way earlier than we'd take a back-up.

ILB
Another position we need in the worst way. The attributes our revolving door at both spots put most on display last year were guessing wrong and taking themselves out of the hole, getting blown off the ball, blowing coverages and not beating blocks on their frequent pass rush forays. While there is hope for rookies – and in particular who was injured in pre-season whilst seemingly winning a starting spot – I'd expect a high-quality veteran to be bought in to lead the youngsters and address the weakness that seems to have been around since the turn of the millennium. Most of the good players in Mobile are undersized for your typical Wink 'backer but there's definitely some kids that can fly around to make plays and hit harder than their size suggests they should be able to.

On the American squad Tulane's Dorian Williams (A24) stands out to me. On the National squad it's Texas' DeMarvion Overshown (N2) – one of three front seven players I really like on the Longhorns defense but the only one of the trio in Mobile – and he should be exciting to watch! Keep an eye out also for Washington's Daiyan Henley (N1) and Cincinnati's Ivan Pace jr (N11)

CB
Yet another position where the Giants defense needs help. The fact that Wink got this unit to play some much better as a testament to his skills as a DC rather than the talent we had. Adoree Jackson had a tremendous season until Dabes made his worst coaching error of the season and sent him back to return punts. He's got one spot locked down long-term (yes, I believe we'll extend him). Beyond that we had another revolving door. Fabian Moreau had some decent games but he's more of a CB4. Aaron Robinson got hurt (again) and as with Elerson Smith my patience has come to an end. The best ability is availability! Nickel back Darney Holmes didn't see a flag he didn't deserve and he saw plenty! With a high cap figure for his limited abilities I expect him to be cut. Cordale Flott made a couple of plays but also couldn't stay heathy. I still think he's more a nickel back than a future starter. Rodarius Williams was barely healthy, mouthed off after one decent game and had his playing time removed. I can't see him making the team again. 

My record of which CB's to like and which not to isn't exactly awe inspiring (I really liked Eli Apple coming out!) and without access to All-22 film they are hard for me to assess as so often not in the picture for the whole of the play.

On the American squad, Miami (Fla)'s Tyrique Stevenson (A8) has a strong bump and run game and the height/length Schoen and Wink seem to like. He's reportedly had very good practices but I've not studied his games at the Hurricanes yet. Kansas State's Julius Brents (A23) is one I have seen a fair bit of this season. He's built ridiculously long but I'm not sure about his ball play skills or that he isn't better suited to a zone scheme. South Carolina's Darius Rush (N28) played second fiddle to All-American Cam Smith (a sure-fire R1 selection) but he's reportedly had a very good week and he looked decent in the lone game I've studied the Gamecocks defense in to date. Iowa's Riley Moss (N27) is a white CB so people will automatically think he's slow. He definitely isn't but he made more plays as an underclassman than this past year. Might be a consideration if we're adding a nickel back. 

On the National squad Stanford's Kyu Blu Kelly (N17), son of former Buc Super Bowl winning CB Brian Kelly, has also reportedly had very good practices. I'm not sure he's not more of a zone CB type though and I can't say he stood out to me when I watched Cardinals games this year. From what I've seen of Oregon State's Rejzohn Wright (N21) he's a better player. He's had issues covering the smaller receivers inside during the practices and drew plenty of flags but he seems to fit the Schioen/Wink profile and did a very good job against USC's Jordan Addison – a likely R1 pick who some consider the top WR in this draft – in their match up this year.

S
Xavier McKinney will look for a big year and a big contract. Julian Love offered leadership and was generally steady and will look to cash in on free agency.  That may not be with us. Rookie Dane Belton made some plays and will play a bigger role going forwards. Jason Pinnock and Nick McCloud got more playing time than expected as forced into action by injuries. Veterans Landon Collins - seen as an LB only nowadays- and Tony Jefferson offered good tackling but aren't the future. I think we have enough even if Love goes but it couldn't hurt adding to ST's with a developmental type player who could contribute in specific packages on defense.

Sacramento State's Marte Mapu (A0) might be one to look out for here along with Boise States JL Skinner (N0) as both are tall players with good size. I like Illinois' Sydney Brown (N30) best though but he's likely to go earlier than we'd be looking to add someone in


#4
For those of you who have taken the time to listen to the podcast I thank you as it saved me an awful lot of writing in order to get my views across as to positions I think the Giants should consider, the type of players that I believe are 'fits' and where I would consider taking them.

My complete 'Giants only' draft board is below. Simple premise really. Those not selected by other teams that aren't taken by the Giants in the designated round drop down to be the top targets in the following round. As we take a player at a position of need those playing the same position come 'off the board' altogether reducing the talent pool available.

There purposely aren't any WR's, G's, C's or FB's listed by design as I don't believe we will take on additional help at those positions. Similarly, I don't believe we'd select a QB before the 3rd round - and I see very few 'fits' for our drop-back passing scheme who have the talent to succeed Eli in a couple of years time - or a DB though as espoused in another thread earlier today if we did look at a corner USC's Adoree Jackson would be the lone one I'd consider, and largely because he has amazing return skills and could help offer big plays on ST's without the need to risk OBJ.

Additionally, with the exception of Cam Robinson, I have removed all those with first round talent who also have 'red flags' be they for character, injury or motivational issues as I can't see us selecting one of them.

Have at it!

#5
The ranking below reflects a combination of where I rate a player, not necessarily where I think they will go.

Those in bold are players I consider fit the Giants schemes/philosophy and will be amongst the targets in the 1st round

Those marked with * may slip a long way due to character/OTF issues. For now I've listed La'el Collins amongst them. If he's cleared before tonight he joins those in bold.

1. DL Leonard Williams, USC
2. WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
3. DE Vic Beasley, Clemson
4. DE/OLB Dante Fowler, Florida
5. QB Jameis Winston, Florida State*
6. WR Kevin White, West Virginia
7. QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon
8. RB Todd Gurley, Georgia
9. DT Danny Shelton, Washington
10. DE Shane Ray, Missouri*
11. RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
12. DL Arik Armstead, Oregon
13. OL La
#6
Overview
There are some good players available for ILB, MLB or WLB including three I expect to be off the board early on the second day of the draft (and one may get picked at the back end of the 1st round). The Giants have brought in FA
#7
The talent available
There are a lot of guys with talent but every single one of them has pronounced faults in their game and none likely to be drafted in the top half of the 1st round. That said, three look likely to be taken in the back end of the 1st round and teams will undoubtedly look to load up on CB
#8
The talent available
Potential stars and depth abound in this draft. Last year was special and this year it looks like there may well be a repeat performance. I have one in my top 5, another in my top 10 and then a bit of a gap to the next best guy who ranks in my top 20 before a half dozen players who sit on the borderline of 1st/2nd round selection. Last year saw 5 WR
#9
The talent available
This year there isn
#10
The talent available
The Giants have a clear prototype for DE but few top prospects fit their mold this year and they are second tier types with good all-around games rather than the type who can consistently terrorize passers off the edge. That said, a couple of them can rush the passer equally as well from the inside so might appeal in Spagnuolo's defense.

What do I think the Giants should do?
Jason Pierre-Paul returns under the
#11
The talent available
There are a number of edge rushers in this draft who will be taken high in the draft, the majority of which will be selected by teams playing the 3-4 defense but some who could be considered
#12
The talent available
While there is some top-end talent available the best players this year three of the top four likely to be drafted fit better in 3-4 schemes or a the 1-technique position than at the 3-technique where the Giants needs lie. That said, there is some solid depth available into the third day of the draft with two players ranked in my top 15, two more in my top 40, two more in my top 50, another in my top 64 and two more in my top 100.

What do I think the Giants should do?
The Giants succession planning has been spot on in at the position for more than 15 years with numerous 2nd and 3rd round draft picks invested at the position and the last ounce of flesh squeezed out of a number of veterans at the journeyman point in their careers. It looks like the Giants are finally deciding to get younger. Jonathan Hankins mans the 1-tech spot at RDT and is a young superstar in the making. Veteran 3-tech Cullen Jenkins suffered from injuries and declining play. If he makes the team his biggest value will be as a mentor to the younger players. Fellow veteran Mike Patterson was supposed to provide depth but ended up starting and was overmatched. He won
#13
The talent available
There are two players worthy of mid-late 1st round selection, another one in my top 40, another in my top 50 and one more in the top 75. Plenty of depth on day three with 'too slow' Tackles being converted to Guard

What do I think the Giants should do?
Quite what the Giants plans were at this position last year are unknown as they were disrupted before the season even began by the retirement on the eve of camp of RG Chris Snee, a pre-season injury to UFA Geoff Schwartz (who was scheduled to start at LG) and a combination of injury and a total failure to progress by RG Brandon Mosley. This led led to UFA John Jerry
#14
The talent available
Having gotten caught up in the hoopla on length and athletic ability shown at the Combine I spent the Easter weekend watching as much of each of the top players back-to-back-to-back as I could. It changed my mind altogether on some and reaffirmed long held beliefs in others. To me, there isn
#15
DEFENSIVE TACKLES

The talent available
A veritable smorgasbord of talent with something for every alignment and type of defence. I have one player ranked in my top 10, one in my top 15, three more in my top 32, two more in my top 64, two more in my top 75 and another two in my top 100.

What do I think the Giants should do?
The Giants succession planning has been spot on in at the position in recent years with a smooth transition made from Cornelius Griffin through Barry Cofield to Linval Joseph. Whilst Joseph was a big loss there is no reason to think that Jonathan Hankins will not be able to step up, especially when you consider how well he played as a rookie. Mike Patterson did a good job in reserve as a run stopper (though he offers little pass rush) and his return should be welcomed. Shaun Rogers did a fine job for 20-odd plays per game but as he
#16
TIGHT ENDS

The talent available
Truthfully, there are really only six prospects available who have the look of future starters and two of those guys are coming off some form of surgery! That said, each of them offers a skill-set that could be considered attractive. I have one player ranked in my top 10, two in my top 40, another in my top 64 and one in my top 100.

What do I think the Giants should do?
As we don
#17
The talent available
It
#18
The talent available
While there are plenty of good players available I
#20
With only the 1st round today waiting 32 picks for the Giants to select will be agonizing and it could be even more so if, with a number of similarly rated players on the board, they get a good offer to trade out of the round altogether whilst they are
#21
DT Review

The talent available
While there are plenty of good players available I
#22
RB Preview

The talent available
While there is good depth, there aren
#23
Hi All,
         Am not sure how much time I'll have to write in-depth articles at each position this year so am going to try to use the technology available - at least I HOPE I will be able to! - to give you all things to think about and discuss when it comes to the draft and the Giants.

The link below should take you to my first draft value board so you have an idea as to how to I think things are shaping up at present.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asdx0POyk_aTdFpsWHBYSVBKaTk5eGFGOFRlS3RyNHc#gid=0

NB: This is nothing more than a first stab so it will change markedly by the time I get around to publishing the final one on the morning of the first day of the draft.
#24
BBH Draft Preview 2011 - Outside Linebackers

The talent available
With the exception of one mega talent who fits nicely in either system - and will be a sure-fire top 5 pick - there isn
#25
The talent available
I don
#26
Top players still remaining on my 'value board'

32. DE Everson Griffen
40. DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern
61. RB Jonathon Dwyer, Georgia Tech
64. DE/OLB Eric Norwood, South Carolina
67. TE Aaron Hernandez, Florida
68. WR Mardy Gillyard, Connecticut
71. DT Cam Thomas, North Carolina
72. DE/OLB Thaddeus Gibson, Ohio State
73. S Reshad Jones, Georgia
74. RB Joe McKnight, USC
78. DT Arthur Jones, Syracuse  
81. CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana PA
86. DT Geno Atkins, Georgia
88. TE Dennis Pitta, BYU
93. WR Carlton Mitchell, South Florida
95. OLB Ricky Sapp, Clemson
96. SLB AJ Edds, Iowa
99. C Matt Tennant, Boston College

Players remaining from my 3rd Round Target List at positions we still have needs
2. CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
5. RB Joe McKnight

I think we will be looking to bolster the roster today with a combination of four the following players:

RB
Jonathon Dwyer
Joe McKnight
Deji Karim
LeGarrette Blount

OT
Bruce Campbell, Maryland
Jason Fox, Miami Fla
Kyle Calloway, Iowa
Sam Young, Notre Dame

G
Marshall Newhouse, TCU

C
Eric Olsen, Notre Dame

MLB
Jamar Chaney, Mississippi state
Phillip Dillard, Nebraska
Vincent Ray, Duke

OLB
AJ Edds, Iowa
O'Brien Schofield, Wisconsin
Adrian Tracy, William & Mary

CB
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana PA
AJ Jefferson, Wisconsin
Walter Thurmond III, Oregon

Ideally, I would like to come away with an MLB, CB, pass catching RB and a C so Chaney, Karim, Jefferson and Olsen would be a nice haul
#27
Top players remaining on my 'value board' from yesterday
13. DE/OLB Sergio Kindle, Texas
18. QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame
31. S Taylor Mays, USC
32. DE Everson Griffen

Players rated 33-100 on my 'value board'
33. T Bruce Campbell, Maryland
34. CB Devin McCourty, Rutgers
35. OLB Darryl Washington, TCU
36. QB Colt McCoy, Texas
37. T Charles Brown, USC
38. DT Terrance Cody, Alabama
39. DE Carlos Dunlap, Florida
40. DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern
41. T/G Roger Saffold, Indiana
42. QB Tim Tebow, Florida
43. ILB Sean Lee, Penn State
44. DT Linval Joseph, East Carolina
45. WR Arrelious Benn, Illinois
46. CB Patrick Robinson, Florida State
47. WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame
48. WR Damian Williams, USC
49. T/G Vladimir Ducasse, Massachusetts
50. DT Brian Price, UCLA
51. DT Lamarr Houston, Texas
52. DE Tyson Alualu, California
53. OLB Navarro Bowman, Penn State
54. CB Chris Cook, Virginia
55. S Morgan Burnett, Georgia Tech
56. RB Dexter McCluster, Mississippi
57. TE Rob Gronkowski, Arizona
58. S Nate Allen, South Florida
59. MLB Brandon Spikes, Florida
60. CB Jerome Murphy, South Florida
61. RB Jonathon Dwyer, Georgia Tech
62. WR Eric Decker, Minnesota
63. DE Alex Carrington, Arkansas State
64. DE/OLB Eric Norwood, South Carolina
65. RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford
66. DE/OLB Jason Worilds, Virginia Tech
67. TE Aaron Hernandez, Florida
68. WR Mardy Gillyard, Connecticut
69. T/G John Jerry, Mississippi
70. OT Jerald Veldheer, Hillsdale MI
71. DT Cam Thomas, North Carolina
72.  DE/OLB Thaddeus Gibson, Ohio State
73. S Reshad Jones, Georgia
74. RB Joe McKnight, USC
75. S Chad Jones, LSU
76. DE Jermaine Cunningham, Florida
77. RB Montario Hardesty, Tennessee
78. DT Arthur Jones, Syracuse 
79. OLB Koa Misi, Utah
80. WR Brandon LaFell, LSU
81. CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana PA
82. G Jon Asamoah, Illinois
83. RB Ben Tate, Auburn
84. TE Jimmy Graham, Miami, Fla
85. CB Amari Spievey, Iowa
86. DT Geno Atkins, Georgia
87. DT Torrell Troup, Central Florida
88. TE Dennis Pitta, BYU
89. WR Taylor Price, Ohio
90. C JD Walton, Baylor
91. WR Andre Roberts, The Citadel
92. MLB/OLB Donald Butler ,Washington
93. WR Carlton Mitchell, South Florida
94. CB Javier Arenas, Alabama
95. OLB Ricky Sapp (Clemson
96. SLB AJ Edds, Iowa
97. G Zach Beadles, Utah
98. CB Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest
99. C Matt Tennant, Boston College
100. CB Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt



2nd Round Target List (46th overall)
1. LB Sean Lee
2. T/G Rodger Saffold
3. DT Linval Joseph
4. DT Brian Price
5. DT Lamarr Houston

Trading down
1. LB Navarro Bowman
2. RB Dexter McCluster
3. T/G John Jerry

3rd Round Target List (76th overall)
1. OT Jared Veldheer
2. CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
3. S Chad Jones
4. DT Arthur Jones
5. RB Joe McKnight
#28
 1. DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
2. QB Mark Bradford, Oklahoma
3. S Eric Berry, Tennessee
4. DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma
5. T Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
6. T Trent Williams, Oklahoma
7. DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech
8. RB CJ Spiller, Clemson
9. CB Joe Haden, Florida
10. T/G Bryan Bulaga, Iowa
11. MLB Rolando McClain, Alabama
12. S Earl Thomas, Texas
12. OLB/DE Sergio Kindle, Texas
13. DE Brandon Graham, Michigan
14. C/G Maurkice Pouncey, Florida
15. T Anthony Davis, Rutgers
16. DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida
17. QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame
18. MLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
19. DT Dan Williams, Tennessee
20. G/T Mike Iupati, Idaho
21. DT Jared Odrick, Penn State
22. TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
23 WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State
24. RB Ryan Matthews, Fresno State
25. OLB/DE Jerry Hughes, TCU
26. CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State
27. WR Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
28. RB Jahvid Best, California
29. CB Kareem Jackson, Alabama
30. S Taylor Mays, USC
31. DE Everson Griffen, USC
32. T Bruce Campbell, Maryland

First Day Target List
1. CJ Spiller
2. Derrick Morgan
3. Rolando McClain
4. Brandon Graham
5. Maurkice Pouncey

Trade down options
1. Jason Pierre-Paul
2. Sean Weatherspoon
3. Dan Williams
4. Mike Iupati

Trade back up into 1st round from the 2nd round
1. Jahvid Best