Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 02, 2023, 10:03:27 AMI like the TE Ferguson from Oregon and both of the Wrs from Washington more than I do either QB.I like Ferguson. The only Talent Nix had of any worth.
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Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 02, 2023, 10:03:27 AMI like the TE Ferguson from Oregon and both of the Wrs from Washington more than I do either QB.I like Ferguson. The only Talent Nix had of any worth.
Quote from: Gmo11 on December 02, 2023, 10:35:22 AMI prefer Nix to Penix. I like his overall game better and coupled with the major injury red flags with Penix I lean Nix. Although for me hes in the tier below the big 3 of Williams Maye and Daniels. I'd be annoyed if they took him in the top 10 but would likely talk myself into it by training camp. Hopefully it doesn't come to that though and they just take Daniels.Daniels has a nice upside. I would be fine with that pick and one of his Receivers named Nabers.
Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 01, 2023, 11:29:02 PMNix is terribly overrated and ripped up by the Oregon offense.His Defense lost the game. Can't cover can't tackle. Not to take anything away from Penix who had a great game.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 01, 2023, 09:24:45 PMNix looks like early Auburn Nix tonight in a huge spot.Jeff, seriously? A snapshot?
Hard pass.
Quote from: Sem on December 01, 2023, 02:17:58 PMEd, re: your 8, with Leo now gone and not re-signing either Ward, A'shawn or Nunez-Roches, and with DJ Davidson having trouble staying healthy plus not showing a lot when he is, you're only returning Dex, DJ, and Riley to the DLine. Aside from Dex all I see is a lot of Q's and holes to fill via the draft and FA, because none of those returning or the listed FA's are showing much. The DLine is going to require a ton of resources - FA $$ and/or draft capital. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you just pointing out that JS and Dabbs have quite a conundrum to deal with along the DLine, as you know.Yes, I did realize that. They will draft Defensive Line and there are better players in the FA Market. They could actually re-sign Leo as he's an FA but I would look to sign Chase Young or Romeo Okwara. They like Ward and will probably re-sign him but I think he can be replaced by Boogie Basham. Chris Jones is too expensive but maybe Reader. I would kick the tires on Clowney and Hankins. It's a huge FA Market and the Giants will have over $30MM in Cap Space.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 01, 2023, 01:30:18 PMGood post - I can also understand the reluctance of a GM/coach to let Barkley walk. With that said, overpaying for him would be foolish (IMO at least), but I think that's pretty well known now. He was frankly foolish himself to not take the offer Schoen gave him (I'm very glad he didn't), and now that decision will likely be pretty costly for him.They can tag him but the market value for him is nowhere near that and as you know the RB Market right now is depressed. He really should have tried to sign with a top team that would have utilized him to his peak performance. Being on this team actually hurt his value. I'd pay him more just because he's the best player on that Offense and they need to keep him. He might take a 3-year deal to stay.
@Ed Vette : If you want Barkley but only want him for $8mm or less, that means you're not tagging him, right? Bc the tag would be for $12mm wouldn't it? Can he be tagged, then agree to an $8mm/yr contract, and then be untagged? That doesn't seem fair to the player if it denies him the opportunity to pursue a better deal in the open market. Is the suggestion to just not tag him and offer him $8mm AAV (with some guarantee) take it or leave it?
I don't really have any other significant quibbles or comments on Ed's list. I'm not sure I'd sign both Adoree AND McKinney though. I think one of those guys max, and I'd be somewhat price-sensitive.
Quote from: madbadger on December 01, 2023, 11:36:37 AMThat and a lack of arm strength. He has a violent arm motion to generate the sort of velocity the top prospects do almost effortlessly. I think he's a good player but I question if he's the guy for us.After Jones' injuries, I can't see Schoen getting a Mara blessing.