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Did they ever interview him before they spent the 20th overall pick in the draft on him?  Glaring stupidity combined with a complete lack of dependability and accountability is not what you want for any player on your team, much less a first-round pick.

QuoteToney claimed that it's the referee's job to tell a player if he is lined up illegally. That's not a requirement of the officials' job, although officials do sometimes give warnings to players and coaches.

"Whether it was, an inch, two inches, whatever in front of the ball, the referee got a job to let me know," Toney told reporters in the Chiefs' locker room. "He didn't make no effort. You watch the video, he didn't make no effort to say anything about no alignment. So apparently, he wanted to do that regardless. But like I said, we're just going back to the details and just make sure we fine print everything."

Toney also said the NFL falsely claimed that a referee warned him about being offside. But referee Carl Cheffers' only comment came to a pool reporter immediately following the game, and Cheffers stood by the call and said the officials are under no obligation to warn players that they're offside.

"Then they came back and lied and said they gave me a warning, which I never talked to a ref," Toney said.

Toney said he considers the offside call "Pretty much bogus, and that it took away what should have been one of the highlights of Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce's career. Kelce caught a pass from Patrick Mahomes and then spontaneously lateraled the ball to Toney, who ran it in for a touchdown that the offside flag wiped out.

"Unfortunately, they took back the greatest play the greatest tight end that played the game did," Toney said. "Just a great play taken back by the greatest tight end."

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kadarius-toney-refs-job-is-to-warn-me-they-took-away-one-of-the-greatest-plays-ever

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Love looked off in the game, but from what I heard, Monday's game wasn't a good representation of his work.  As for the 2-point call any play that doesn't work, is always second-guessed, hard to say if there was a better option.

On the other side

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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 15, 2023, 09:31:47 AMHe's been such a disaster (and not just this year) that he will probably struggle to even get a coordinator job. Might take him a couple years, if he gets one at all. He may have to settle for some sort of defensive assistant type job or go be a college DC.

Considering Brandon Staley's background is on the defensive side and the Chargers defense has been even worse than their offense, I have to agree.

There's no comeback for Brandon Staley after this epic bust in Vegas

Chargers' jaw-dropping 63-21 defeat to the Raiders should spell the end for this coaching regime

https://sports.yahoo.com/theres-no-comeback-for-brandon-staley-after-this-epic-bust-in-vegas-053429275.html

Who are you betting on?  Why?

https://x.com/ProFootballHOF/status/1735447102266733003?s=20

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 15, 2023, 08:51:33 AMI'm actually afraid that when Neal is ready, Daboll puts him back at RT and it shuts down the passing game. Too bad they can't loan him to the Eagles for a few months and have him come back a better player like Phillips. Which leads me to think a trade may be possible if teams know he's salvageable with proper coaching. I jest of course. But the fear is real.

Ed,

It's a tough situation, a sort of damned if you do/damned if you don't.  As you said, putting Neal back in could short-circuit the passing game again, but if you don't, you lose a chance to see if he is salvageable.

To answer the question:

Most of TD's traits seem NFL caliber, and he certainly has the intangibles.  It would seem the real limiter would be TD's arm strength.  So, doing a bit of research, here are QBs with weaker arms who have enjoyed success:

1) Drew Brees
2) Tua Tagovailoa
3) DeShaun Watson
4) Brock Purdy
5) Matt Ryan

Quote from: kingm56 on December 15, 2023, 07:45:17 AMDon't you find it odd the perceived O-line improvement coincides with a QB change?  I say perceived because the objectionable data suggest the line actually got worse, having allowed 8, 5, 9 and 6 sacks prior to last week's game.  Pressures have remained steady at 28% of passing downs.  Last week the pressures were on par with the average; yet, GB produced no sacks as a byproduct of some slick moves (in the pocket) by DeVito.  How many sure sacks did he avoid in the pocket...5?

Speaking of DeVito, I like his grit, mobility, and quick decision making; however, he has some tangible physical limitation that may prevent him from becoming a top-tier QB.  Regardless, I typically reserve judgement on QBs until they've started at least 20 games; my research indicates all QB demonstrate their skill-sets between games 23 – 30.  So, I'll continue to watch with a hopeful attitude that DeVito morphs into a Tony Romo like story.  Having said that, I do think his play has been inflated by a fan-base desperate for solid QB play, which is why some were fooled by DJ last season.  Fundamentally, if the Giants have a chance to draft a QB in '24, they should; retain Tommy as backup and release DJ in '25. 

For the record, poor protection is not the fault of the QB at least not in this case.


https://x.com/Doug_Analytics/status/1735464758776672542?s=20


https://x.com/Doug_Analytics/status/1735645893661991279?s=20

Two former NFL QBs broke down TD's play.  They saw many plays that were left on the field


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