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I want a beefy DT or secondary

Quote from: gregf on April 25, 2024, 11:05:42 PMCB, RB, and safety are in play. Personally,  I hope the next 2 picks build the trenches at guard and DT.

IMHO there are three very good running ba is in this draft. I know people say you can find a starter in the 4th round but if the goal is to build an offense this year so that who ever they draft next year can transition smoothly than you can't discount a running back.  Corum, Benson and Brooks are going to be good backs for the next 6 or 7 years.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on April 25, 2024, 11:07:07 PMLenn,

In 2022 Daniel Jones had a 93.2 RTG ranked 13th, a 60.2 QBR ranked 6th, and the Giants went 10-7-1 and won a playoff game.

May I ask did you forget about this?

Respectfully...that was not a great season for a QB in today's NFL.  It was barely good and only by comparison from what they had seen from him prior to that.  And in fact, that team wasn't really talented enough to make the playoffs they just had a LOT of lucky bounces along the way that got them extra wins.  Had those bounces gone the other way, (which they very much did this past season) and Jones still has those same stats but without the playoff appearance/win, there's not a doubt in my mind he would have been replaced last offseason.

Quote from: Gmo11 on April 25, 2024, 09:49:52 PMThey'll find something.  They always do.

GMO,

In 2022 Daniel Jones posted a 93.2 RTG ranked 13th, a 60.2 QBR ranked 6th, and the Giants went 10-7-1, and won a playoff game.

Where were the excuses?

The Giants just added an elite #1 WR, and if they can upgrade the O line to perform at least average, do you think Daniel Jones can have a bounce back year?

or do you think he and the team will be worse?

Will he be better?  Probably.  But that's not exactly a high bar to reach.  Will he be excellent? Probably not.  He's just not a great QB.  Few are.  He has flashes that make you realize that the talent is there but that quickly is followed by about 3 or 4 crappy games to bring you back to reality. 

They will need to move on from Jones soon but clearly they didn't feel like these other 3 QBs were more valuable than Nabers.  I tend to agree that Nabers is a special talent and tough to pass up at #6...but until they get him a guy that con consistently get him the ball there's not much he can really do to help generate wins.

Quote from: LennG on April 25, 2024, 09:29:25 PMHe can be as fired up as he wants it still takes talent to succeed.
What will the excuses be now?

Lenn,

In 2022 Daniel Jones had a 93.2 RTG ranked 13th, a 60.2 QBR ranked 6th, and the Giants went 10-7-1 and won a playoff game.

May I ask did you forget about this?

CB, RB, and safety are in play. Personally,  I hope the next 2 picks build the trenches at guard and DT.

Nabers goes on the field with a warrior mindset. He plays WR like Payton ran the football and finds ways to get the ball and move the ball. He's a scrapper that will fight for the ball...harder than whoever is trying to stop him

We haven't seen the best of DJ. I'm hoping Bricillo can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and that the two newcomers to the line will gel with the rest of the line

One thing we know...DJ will be out there early and often to work with Nabers so that they will be on the same page

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 10:25:32 PMHe's being paid like a number 3 WR.  I think the challenge in trading him is that it's such a strong WR draft class

My bad, I thought he was being paid as a #2

DT Darius Robinson, LB Payton Wilson, DT Braden Fiske, DT Kris Jenkins, CB Max Melton, S Cole Bishop, and (fat chance OG Jacson Powers-Johnson or OT/C/OG Graham Barton)