Big Blue Huddle

Ceri and I take a look at the Giants' Round 1 pick, Malik Nabers, plus where the front office might go from here. A quick hit podcast of 8:45 in length. Enjoy!

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Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 09:41:07 PMThe 2 backups moved the ball better than the 40 million dollar QB (with the same Oline - except Pugh)

Are we forgetting that our best OL guy wasn't there for Jones?  Thomas being out was kind of significant, no?

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on April 25, 2024, 09:31:19 PMThe Giants picked 6th, there was no way Minn knew it would unfold that way at that point. No doubt there was an offer sitting there. IMHO


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And based on how things played out, it's much more likely there was no "king's ransom" offer. The evidence doesn't back your opinion.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on April 25, 2024, 09:34:07 PMHi,

No but if they thought JJ or Penix were superior and potential franchise QB's they would have taken them, but they didn't they passed at #6, why?

You don't pass on a potential franchise QB if you are absolutely done with Daniel Jones as Rich Eisen pontificated all over the internet about 4-6 weeks ago.

The man was completely wrong and mislead a lot of viewers and Giant fans.

If you don't like DJ then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

I on the other hand feel with an adequate O line, a #1 explosive WR, and an slightly easier schedule, I believe DJ will have a bounce back year.

Enjoy

The DJ contract always meant he'd be on the team in September. I don't think anyone here disputed that.

Whether he's the guy after this coming season, is a big question. The contract is built with an exit clause.

I'm certain I heard Eisen say Jones won't be ready for September, which I've not read or heard elsewhere - he does seem to be over zealous in this approach (however, I may have misheard).

Nevertheless, in my opinion - there is no certainty around Jones' starting position come the end of the year. But if you believe that's the case, I cannot argue with that.

Quote from: killarich on April 25, 2024, 09:45:59 PMYes ....they will be DONE after next season if that is the case

RIGHT NOW they are not

Did they try to improve at QB ?? Probably yes most likely ....BUT  they are not DONE at the moment ...if they were you simply take the franchise QB


they believed none of these QB's outside the top 3 are that


so no they are not done with Jones

Honestly, this is pedantic waffling around the term "done with" for no real purpose. So I am, actually, done with discussing it.

My god.... is their a chance we get a first round level defensive player in the 2nd round the way things are going ?

this is really turning out to be an all-offense draft. I wonder how far down the board before a defensive player is picked

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on April 25, 2024, 09:42:53 PMAnd when DJ is cut after this season, will you admit the Giants were "completely done" with him but for considerations having nothing to do with his talents? He's still on the team because of cap considerations. You appear to be declaring victory on DJ's behalf--why I don't know--because the Giants didn't draft the 4th QB at 6, a move that would be a disproportionate utilization of valuable draft capital.

I literally haven't criticized DJ at all in this thread, just noted that the pick of a WR is not confirmation of faith in him. But the defensiveness of DJ against logic is clear.

Yes ....they will be DONE after next season if that is the case

RIGHT NOW they are not

Did they try to improve at QB ?? Probably yes most likely ....BUT  they are not DONE at the moment ...if they were you simply take the franchise QB


they believed none of these QB's outside the top 3 are that


so no they are not done with Jones

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 09:38:45 PMDid I say there were? I was simply talking to mad about the 3 prospects he mentioned as it refers to next year.

Where would you put the 2025 class with the end of 2022 version of the 2023 class.  That is the REAL comparison.

Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 09:41:07 PMThe 2 backups moved the ball better than the 40 million dollar QB (with the same Oline - except Pugh)

DJ went up against Dallas and San Fran first two games against top 5 defenses.

The first five out of six teams he faced were all playoff teams, before getting hurt.

Taylor and Devito went up against inferior competition.

Taylor put up 9 points against Buffalo, a top 5 defense.

Taylor like Jones was also hurt after only 3 games behind this O line.

Let me ask you a question.

The Giants have added a legitimate #1 WR, he is explosive.

If they strengthen the O line.

Do you think DJ will have better stats this year?

or will he be worse?