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#1
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:37:30 AMJoe,

It's always seemed to me that with QB, it's a special position. It's not like teams take the view of, "Well, if we don't get Jimbo, Bob will be just as good because he is nearly as talented."  There needs to be that special physical and intangible connection between the QB prospect and the team that drafts him.

You are probably right Rich about QB.  In retrospect, having Manning, Ben, or Rivers would all have worked out but at the time maybe Ernie did not think that would be the case.  Would hate to see draft assets given up and ideally your guy falls to you but if you have to go up and get him then so be it.
#2
What is important is how close or far apart they have each QB ranked relative to each other.  Could they be close enough that they dont have to trade up?
#3
The Raiders RT pickup in FA is the solution at RT unless Neals performs.  We have insurance. 
#4
The things listed above that Maye supposedly scare me sound like DJ things which I dont want to see again.  Mental processing miscues.  No thanks.
#5
Quote from: katkavage on Today at 09:51:29 AMI think they believe they are close enough that they they can get their guy. It's now or never for both Schoen and Daboll. In the perfect world they would have gotten their guy two years ago but there wasn't anyone out there and couldn't give up on Jones so quickly.

Yes 100%.  Close enough like at 4 in the Manning year to do something big.
#6
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Great foot race if
Today at 09:48:04 AM
Deonte Banks too
#7
I believe this is way more than just lining up prospects for their draft board.  This feels like the Manning year where they want to firmly stamp the next 10 years with a new Giants QB.  I think they will do whatever to get their guy as Accorsi did.
#8
Penix seems to need a really clean pocket to play well.  The last time the Giants could regularly provide clean pockets was..................

Get a QB in round 1 otherwise forget QB and load up on other positions and wait til 2025.
#9
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 27, 2024, 07:09:16 PMI could see that too. But I'd also say you're going to have a substantial contingent of disappointed fans at the end of April no matter what we do in the draft. We have way more holes than we can possibly plug up with quality players.

Yes but we got a good proven pass rusher for that 2nd.  Solved one need.
#10
Big Blue Huddle / Three Headed RB
March 27, 2024, 07:31:21 PM
I must say I liked a 3 RB committee with each offering something different.  Then if one goes down to injury, still have 2 in rotation.

Would we go back to that under Dabs?

What RB type is Eric Gray?
#11
Big Blue Huddle / Re: J.K. Dobbins
March 27, 2024, 07:29:30 PM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 27, 2024, 02:37:47 PMThe guy has played 9 games since 2020 with two big injuries, no thanks.  Further, when you look at his stats keep in mind 1) he has played in a gimmicky offense that helps RBs 2) has played behind one of the top 10 (probably better for run blocking ) OLs in the NFL. 

The combination of less around him and playing 9 games in 3 years has me feeling like the team should pass. 

Good info.  Didnt know all that.  Pass.
#12
I think they think they addressed it in FA.  Focus is elsewhere.
#13
Why is it that with Nabers I feel like there may be a maturity issue yet I don't feel that way with Harrison or Odunze?

Shades of OBJ?

I continue to think Brian Thomas is the real gem.
#14
Big Blue Huddle / Re: J.K. Dobbins
March 27, 2024, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 27, 2024, 01:34:35 PMHe's been cleared for football activities.

Typically I'm against signing guys with recent injury history, but he's someone I'd be willing to roll the dice on. Still only 25 and has averaged 5.8 ypc in his career.

I'd be down with a low base salary, high incentive contract for him over a couple of years. Think he'd make for a great complement to Singletary.



Yes even if a stopgap for a year or 2
#15
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2024, 12:03:45 PMYes, I had never considered the point he made about how the O-line performance is essentially independent of the rest of the team.

Same here Rich.  I know QB depends in them but never thought that they dont need anybody else or that the D depends in them.  Brilliant point IMHO.

Build there.

I definitely think he may go OL with pick 5.  He win with Roman Wilson at WR who is good but hardly elite.  His OLs the past few seasons have been elite