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#1
Maybe Lock was a bad fit the offense Broncos wanted to run (or simply not a good "second" for the starting QB.

MY point is that it doesn't necessarily mean he is dumb.

IMO, it's much more likely he simply was in the "wrong place" at the wrong time.

Bob
#2
"Impressive athletic numbers" don't count for much.  Ask (for example) Johnny Unitas.

NFL QB is about smarts, poise, class and leadership. 

Maybe he should try out for the Olympics instead.   /sarcasm/

Bob
#3
For a team in the Giants' position, there must a good reason NOT to take a QB (as there must be if they take one).

By "position" I mean draft slot & the current status of their QB situation. I read nothing extra into this report.

The Giants are known for spending lots of money on the draft and have lot of people involved in draft preparation.

Bob
#4
Lenn: I don't like Penix at all, but if the Giants take him (or any other QB) that high, I will fall back on the view that they know more about it than I do, even though I have a half-decent record on the issue of 1st-round QB's. In any event, I am certain that they will believe they're getting a bargain if they do such a thing. I'd prefer them to get a QB later in the draft (if at all) and try to get a guy who fell due to poor coaching rather than poor character.  IMO there's no position where character matters more then NFL QB.  Bob
#5
Quote from: squibber on March 27, 2024, 11:05:23 AMSince it's slow here I wonder if this sounds familiar to anyone.

When my mother got engaged, my father's two aunts told my mother she is not good enough for him because she is cross eyed.

When I got engaged to my current wife, my mother told me she is not happy. It was frustrating because I was 38 at the time. Did she want me to risk not finding love just to meet her standards?

My son got engaged last Christmas and my wife is unhappy about his choice. She feels he could do better. There are a number of reasons she feels that way. Whenever she comes over, she is quiet and seems like she doesn't want to be here. She only speaks when spoken to. She is not perfect but she is a good person and they get along well. I'm more open minded than my wife.

squib: Every mom worth her salt feels that way about her children. It's not a thing to worry about, IMO. Just try to encourage her to talk only to you about it, never to your son. Sometimes moms get it wrong, but sometimes they hit the nail on the head. Bob
#6
Great discussion.  I highly recommend everyone read this entire thread, not just post your view. Bob
#7
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Three Headed RB
Today at 07:57:54 AM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 12:41:29 AMCorbin, Singletary, and Gray are all 1 cut backs.
J: This is not necessarily a bad thing. 

I never completely agreed with the idea Jim Fassel had that two different types of RB's were absolutely necessary (the Giants passed on someone they should have drafted back then because the guy in question was the same type of RB they already had.

The advantage of not having a variety is that the OL can block all running plays the same (and lord knows the Giants' OL, which can't do anything right, needs the maximum amount of reps on just one type of blocking, IMO. My fall-back example is the Vince Lombardi offense, which ran only a small handful of running plays, and practiced them over and over and over, until the OL got so good at running them that the opponent couldn't stop them even if when they knew which play was being run.

Bob
#8
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 27, 2024, 08:45:46 PMHow motivated do you think they really were to sign Barkley? They didn't tag him, and there were plenty of reports he was going to hit the free agent market. I would not say they made any real effort to sign him. I think it was a total waste to not trade him. "We were still trying to win" in the context of what this team was in 2023 is an absurd explanation.

DB: IMO there are different levels of "motivated" and the Giants wanted him, just not badly (due to the cost). Bob
#9
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2024, 12:03:45 PMYes, I had never considered the point he made about how the O-line performance is essentially independent of the rest of the team.
Rich: He's correct. They are an essentially independent "unit" (which is why, when asked, which is the most important POSITION on offense and defense, I always answer "offensive line" (I consider OL a position). It does little good to have one top OL and a bunch of crap elsewhere. Any decent NFL team will find dozens of ways around the one good guy... the proof is right here with the Giants, IMO.
#10
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on March 27, 2024, 12:33:43 PMAddressed the offensive line?

To me this feels like past off-seasons where we were all so thirsty for a functional OL that we got excited over middling signings.

I think most of those signings were depth, and that we still need Day 1 & day 2 OL.

#tradedown
#weneedmorepicks


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andrew: No one knows, but I believe the two guards we just got in free-agency are better than the last time they signed free-agent guards.  I don't know for sure if the one guy will play guard or if he'll have to take over for Neal, because IMO Neal is still a wild card. Bob
#11
Quote from: londonblue on March 27, 2024, 07:58:41 AMThe UK residents on the forum feel much the same about American football=soccer players...
london: Great retort!!! Bob
#12
Quote from: madbadger on March 26, 2024, 03:42:33 PMNo wonder why we suck.  =))
madb: One of your best posts!!! Bob
#13
Excellent mentor for Schmitz (if nothing else). Bob
#14
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 26, 2024, 11:04:30 AM@Bob In PA and @Jolly Blue Giant

Another consideration is positional value.  TEs are paid substantially less than WRs.  So the value of a rookie TE drafted at 6 is substantially less (cap-wise) than a WR drafted at 6.

Rich: That is why I mentioned him.  If they really want the GA TE then IMO they'll first seek to trade down a couple of spots to pick up the 2nd-rounder they gave Carolina. Bob
#15
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on March 25, 2024, 12:01:07 PMcollege football (as it relates to the passing game) has become a literal minor league system to the NFL.


andrew: True, but that doesn't mean playing WR in the NFL has gotten any easier than in the past.

The college WR's simply never face the kind of "perfect storm" DB's they will face in the NFL.  You get mugged on every play in the NFL and most people just can't deal with it.  And it's worse in cold weather.

My bottom line: every NFL position has a learning curve, but IMO for all but the very best WR's (and even for some of them) the learning curve for WR is one of the steepest. 

Bob