Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 11:53:21 AMMy whole premise is that you want to build the offense to the point that you can go all in on a quarterback in 2025 and have the pieces around him to maximize his chances of success. The starting line currently looks like Thomas-Runyan-JMS-Eluemuno—Neal. After that we have no quality depth and Neal has been awful. If Neal doesn't improve quickly I could see the Giants benching him and kicking Eluemuno outside and opening a need for someone who is better than Ezudu at guard.

I understand in doing that you lose the chance to draft a starting corner but you hope that between Thibs, Dex, Burns and Okereke that you can create enough pressure to protect Banks, Flott and Hawkins. Not a perfect solution but at the end of the day there are no silver bullets available.

I don't disagree and love Powers-Johson.  I think he could turn a position into a strength rather than an adequate player. Right now there is still a bunch of question marks outside of Thomas

Just not sure that Schoen and company will prioritize IOL over some other needs. I assume they have some confidence in the guys they signed. 

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 11:54:29 AMWho you liking? Kool Aid, Melton Newton Benson Tampa?

Kinda feelin' the CB too

I'm thinking DT or CB

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 11:38:42 AMGuy can play either OC or OG or OC (if JMS gets hurts/bust) then you get Jermaine who can play RT (If Neal gets hurt/busts)

Guy is a POWERS-HOUSE! Sorry Dad joke

Thomas-Runyan-JMS-Powers- Eleumenor/Neal

Is it overkill? Maybe. I just love the talent and think he is your new Chris Snee day 1 starter for the next decade.

I feel the same way about Powers-Johnson.  Just not sure the team will invest more high draft capital in the OL at this point. 

I don't see this hypothetical trade happening because there will be plenty of talent left at WR at 34.

I like Powers-Johnson but do the Giants see IOL as a position of need?

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:23:20 AMIt appears this is who Parsons wanted the Cowboys to draft

https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1783693109336977592

If true I could see a CB or two in his locker room taking exception

One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how differently teams evaluate prospects compared to talking heads.  Maybe its that talking heads are evaluating in vacuum not with a system or role in mind, compared to teams that really need to consider those types of things. 

Until the Falcons I thought the draft was pretty much in line with popular opinion.  The second half of the 1st seemed like teams had players rated very differently than media.

Quote from: killarich on Today at 10:00:36 AMThink anyone would give a second rounder for Slayton ? lol

I like the dude but I want the team to get a beefy DT and Corner

I don't think a 2nd rounder is on the table, especially for this year's draft. There is still several good WRs available and if teams like the Bills that are WR needy pass or miss out (they pick first today) then I could see a trade happening.  At best I think a 3rd or 4th for next years draft could happen.

I think the most likely scenario is a post draft trade which is why I think a 2025 pick is most likely. 

Even if you don't think DJ is the guy, I don't see why drafting a worthy WR at 6 is something to fret over. 

I get people want a different QB.  Truly elite QBs are rare, so if we assume the Giants upgrade DJ with a QB who is not in that category, they will need top tier talent around him. 

Quote from: kingm56 on Today at 08:45:48 AMI've been trying to reconcile this move too, Matt.  Here's the best I could do:

1.   They want an insurance policy for a 35 year old QB coming off an ACL injury
2.   If  Penix showcases some skills, his potential trade value could be worth more than '' pick; thus, representing a positive ROI.

Matt,

The only thing I could think of to rationalize the pick is that Cousins is 36 and not a long-term solution and now they potentially have that solution when Cousins is gone.  Just seems odd to me for a team to be thinking about 2026 and beyond when they have not had a winning record or playoff appearance since 2017.

Signing a 36 year old QB to that kind of guaranteed money after an Achilles injury is questionable, but was understandable given their situation.  Taking their future QB the same year is nothing short of bizarre IMO. 

If they are worried about Cousins injury to start the season, signing a high end backup seems more reasonable than drafting another QB at #10.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on Today at 08:34:08 AMThat's what Blank was probably saying too last night. Can't defend that move on any level. Mind boggling. Why bother to sign Cousins (and tamper)? Trade down..add picks and still get Penix mid-round. Or simply add a quality player.

Its one of the most bizarre picks I can remember. They have made a lot of moves to improve their offense over the last several years.  They had every defensive player in the draft still available and chose a QB. 

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on Today at 08:18:17 AMThe only possible explanation would be if the Cousins rehab is not coming along as expected. Otherwise, a real head scratcher 

I see your point, but then why the hell would you give that guy $100 million guaranteed? 

Rich,

I was surprised by some of the reaction here.  I wanted Odunze but think very highly Nabers ability, just hope the attitude stuff is overblown. 

I think Nabers along with a better OL will cause a significant improvement in the passing game.  Not sure I see top 10 though.

Outside of the Penix pick I dont know if I see any really crazy selections.  There are some that were a little surprising to see in the 1st round, but even those picks I thought made sense and they were guys that I thought would go in round 2.

Guess they didnt have McCarthy or the other QBs left rated as high as the media or some fans.