Big Blue Huddle

No-brainer, the Giants made the right pick in Nabers

The data is a little skewed as they've only been tested in practice sessions rather than real games. Practices see little violent collisions compared to Sunday gameday

I suspect that there will be some style changes, as they are ugly as hell. Football is a violent game, and what we have beats the old leather wrappings that kept your brain intact, very similar to a bean bag keeping beans from spilling all over the floor, but I do understand the need for safety. Still, those things look disgusting

During my life as an engineer, I worked specifically with shock absorbers for several months...nothing at all like you see on a car, as they were not based on springs, but rather miniature hydraulics . These were very small and very effective, that absorbed PC boards from breaking as chips were place on them at about 20 chips per second. I would think it would be possible to design a two layered helmet with a nicely designed shock absorber between the two layers. It would seem better than covering a players head with a quilted patterned pillow 

Today we're on the clock at

Rd 2: 15th pick
Rd 3: 6th pick

Had we not traded for Burns (a brilliant move BTW), we would have been picking 7th in the second round as teams with identical records rotate. Having the 15th pick tonight is better than getting poked in the eye with a sharp stick, but it's not ideal. A lot of studs will be picked like vultures taking meat from a kill. Hopefully, there's at least 16 studs

I completely agree (which means nothing in the grand scheme of things), and I believe he makes sense. The only QB I can see that needs a lot of polish, but seems to have the intangibles, comes from a small school... Michael Pratt (Tulane). He'd need a couple of years of top-notch coaching and high level seasoning to even know if he could cut it in the NFL. High risk, low reward??? I don't know. Not to mention (as pointed out in other threads), so many QB needy teams got one to try out for a couple of years that the competition in 2025 for QBs should be minimal if we so choose to go QB shopping

I like the idea of standing pat and taking BPA. We are not going for the Lombardi this year, so we need to stock up with high-quality players for when we are ready to make the run for the gold

The hated Eagles obviously caught a big break and "once again", can step in dog poop and come out smelling like a bouquet of flowers...like Dolly Parton stepping out of her make-up room

But the Giants did really well, and I agree with Bob. Getting the BPA, at a huge place of need, is all any fan could ever ask for. Nabers is going to change the face of the Giants. Hopefully he adjusts to the big lights of NYC without getting caught up in it. He's electric and fun to watch, something we haven't had since OBJ made so many highlight plays. Our opponents are going to have to change their game plans when facing us thanks to this addition to the team

How well this draft goes, though, will still depend on the next two days, but we are off to a fantastic start

Quote from: UKGiantsFan on Today at 12:30:16 AMPeople that think Belichik is glib and short in the personality department really gonna need a re-think.

Great catch...I would have never guessed he could be so personable and interesting 

As a twice divorced guy, I can assure you that the following year is brutal and it's hard to concentrate on your career when dealing with it. I'd be quite surprised if he's been able to shake it off and return to the field, mentally prepared for battle. Might happen, but I'm leery 

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 01:20:09 PMMaybe but none of us knows how the staff feel about Flott and Hawkins. If they really like the both of them than we don't really have a need do we?

Not to mention Adoree is still available as a FA and would probably settle for vet-min, and he already knows the team, and what he has to clean up. He had an off year last year, but has put together solid years before that

Or, they could take a look at CB Xavien Howard who's still available and only 29 years old with 8-years experience in Miami who took him in the second round

Adoree and/or Howard are vets who could mentor Flott and Hawkins. Flott is finally adding muscle and Hawkins has put in his time as a rookie and now knows what he has to do to become a starter, and I'm sure that's all he concentrated on during the off-season

Bottom line: we are not in CB hell and if we draft a rookie, he's in for a "rookie season" of lumps and duhs. We were fortunate that Banks was a quick study. That's rare in the CB world

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 01:05:04 PMI didn't say he'd last till the fifth. I said I wouldn't pick him till the fifth. A big difference, no?

I've watched a lot of film on him and visited other boards. Two teams have been aggressively discussing why he's the perfect fit for their team (Cowboys and Eagles). Cowboy fans want to pair him with Parsons, and Eagles biggest needs are all in the defensive backfield and need a LB who can get to the QB after losing Reddick

Personally, I don't want my team facing him twice a year and watching him terrorize us

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 10:59:25 AMWilson is a fun player to watch but he's torn his ACL twice and because of that I wouldn't use a pick on him before the 5th round. The last thing we need as fans is a player who oozes potential but is always hurt.

He'll never last to the 5th. His injury history is not recent, but back in his HS and early college career. He's healthy now, but of course there's a risk. He's dynamic! Micah Parsons dynamic. Paired with Okereke would make a devastating backside to the DL. His speed, instant acceleration, ridiculous athleticism, uncanny nose for the ball, and vicious tackling are elite. If not for his injuries a few years ago, he'd be in the top 15 in the draft. Even with the injuries, he's been ranked as high as 17th on some boards. He's a once-in-a-lifetime LB. Is he worth the risk? I believe so

I've seen him go from the right sideline, all the way to the left sideline to tackle a RB (see attached clip). I've seen him chase down X-receivers on breakaways. And his ability to laser-focus to the ball is uncanny. He is going to be a legend in the NFL

The discussions/arguments that go back and forth between the fans who are pro-DJ and negative-DJ, remind me of my college days when I was a math major/computer programming minor. I used to program using IBM punch cards in which each card was a line of code. After finishing a program, I'd wrap a rubber band around the cards, walk across campus to the room that had a compiler. The next day, the results of the program I had written would be in my box. It would be printed out on a single page of green and white track paper, which would then be handed in as my homework assignment. However, when I made a big mistake, I'd get a stack of track paper that resembled a Chicago phone book. The reason: the dreaded "do-loop"...stick with me, there is a point I want to make

In programming in the old days of Fortran, Pascal, etc., lines of code are used to solve a problem. There are "if" statements that are inserted called a conditional process statements that specifies a test expression (basically works like a train railway switch). If the expression does not satisfy the process, it loops back into the program to try a second condition. The "do-loop" hell, is when there is a mistake in the program that causes the secondary "if" statement to run the process right back through the original "if" statement that in turn, cause the compiler to keep running as it is stuck in a never ending loop and printing page after page of bad data

Such is the never ending discussion between those who want DJ replaced ASAP and those who think DJ has not been given the right opportunity to succeed. We are stuck in a never-ending "do-loop" that has been printing paper (in our case, digits on a monitor) for better than a year now. It's the exact same argument on both sides for the millionth time as though if it is made "just one more time", someone will come around and agree. It will never happen. So if we could just go forward and get behind the QB we have, that'd be swell

Edit: this is in response to an earlier post on this thread in which the discussion had turned to "we must replace DJ" and "we need to support DJ"...but as I see this post ending at the end of the thread, it's no longer relevant. My bad[/i]

I'd make that trade, but I doubt NE would take it. I like Slayton, but with the addition of Nabers, Hyatt coming into his second year, the resigning of Isaiah Hodgins, and Bryce Ford-Wheaton getting baptized into the NFL...I'm not so sure if he's going to be getting nearly the touches he has been getting. And if he's unhappy in his current status and salary, it could become a problem

On the other hand, with the focus of defenses switching to stopping Nabers, Slayton (who normally is the focus of the best CB) could thrive. I guess it depends on how much faith the team has in Hyatt taking the next step

Bottom line: 

Washington Commanders: QB Jayden Daniels

New York Football Giants: WR Malik Nabers

Philadelphia Eagles: CB Quinyon Mitchell

Dallas Cowboys: OL Tyler Guyton

As far as the Commanders go, IMO, breaking in a new QB is a 2-3 year process and first year is usually ugly. They made the right decision, but I don't see the pick making them a feared opponent this coming year (neither positive nor negative)

New York Giants added the most firepower since OBJ (positive)

Filthy Eagles got a highly touted CB from small school Toledo. Will make rookie mistakes, but a good pickup for them (positive)

Jerruh's Cowturds got an OT (somewhere between the 5th to 7th ranked OT in the draft) that fills a need. But like the Commanders, their pick needs 2-3 years to become serviceable. Guyton will be picked on as the weak link in the line this year. Will be interesting to watch Burns school him this coming season (negative...would have been better off getting a FA tackle with NFL experience and drafting BPA...IMO)

It's going to be interesting because Schoen is not afraid to move around the chess board. If there's a player he really wants, he'll trade up and if he sees that there isn't great value, he's liable to trade down and add some draft stock

I believe there are a few players left on the board that Schoen craves, and he's a good enough poker player to get what he wants. For me, I'd trade up to get OG Jackson Powers-Johnson who I believe is a better guard than Graham Barton who went in the first. JPJ manhandled the best pass rushers that the Senior Bowl could throw at him. He DOMINATED them over and over. I'm still a little shocked he's still on the board

If the Giants stand pat again, I'd be happy with the best CB (Max Melton, Cooper DeJean [although he's more of a nickel back], Mike Sanistrail??), or a DT, someone like Kris Jenkins, or Braden Fiske

And I'd do my happy dance if they drafted LB Payton Wilson, who I think is the most exciting defensive player in the entire draft

Quote from: Philosophers on April 16, 2024, 02:27:43 PMI think DJ is a very accurate deep ball thrower.  In my opinion his problem is a fear to gamble to make that throw.

Am I wrong?

Nope...you are not wrong. DJ didn't get the nickname "Dimes" because of an erratic arm that was weak. In his first year he spent a lot of time looking at the turf or the sky. He led the NFL in interceptions. He was told he needed to cut down on turnovers, so he did what he was told and when no receiver was open and he had a couple of beasts about to fill his face mask with dirt and grass, he took off on his own becoming a bit of a legend for a running QB (but that was out of life-saving necessity)

But we all know the story and even Mara admitted that the team did everything in their power to screw the kid up. Every year he played under different head coaches, offensive coaches, QB coaches, OL coaches, etc., while always running for his life with a substandard receiving cast and was told "not to take chances and do NOT make turnovers". He did what he was told...and he still does what he is told

I'm still excited to see what he can do with a real offensive line that offers protection and some receivers that know how to make things happen. I'm not ready to throw out the baby with the bath water because I must have instant gratification that comes by going to the QB store and purchasing a franchise QB