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Messages - Slugsy-Narrows

#1
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Predictions
March 25, 2024, 10:50:02 PM
WR at 6 - Nabers or Odunze

Giants select Penix with their next pick

If May falls out of the top 3 they try and trade up and take him.
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants get interview request
January 08, 2024, 04:59:00 PM
If hired we get some decent comp picks!  We knew he wouldn't stay forever
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Wink "resigns" from the Giants
January 08, 2024, 04:55:03 PM
https://x.com/TheDougRush/status/1744461273746596068

He always ran good D's if I remember correctly
#4
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Sterling Shepard
January 08, 2024, 09:35:01 AM
Quote from: Bob In PA on January 08, 2024, 09:08:13 AMMaybe the Giants will have a coaching (or other organizational) position to offer him. Give it a few days. Bob

I could see Shep staying on as an Asst Coach!  Last year once injured many players commented on how Shep would help them during practices and games.  Respected Vet and man.  Wouldn't be a bad move!

I like Shep.  When healthy he did right by the Gmen and made some great plays!  His body didn't hold up.  Wan is coming into that roll strong!  It's time to move on.
#5
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 08, 2024, 09:20:42 AMI get that, and that is a reason to not kick him to the curb. If he's a feel-good guy that everyone likes having around, and he doesn't want to retire, why not make him some sort of "chief executive consultant of training" or some other fancy-sounding title, and keep him at his same salary and all other perks of his job, but bring in someone highly qualified and more up to date to be the new head? I have a hard time believing Barnes (if he's as great of a guy as everyone says) would have a huge problem with that. The bottom line is we need new leadership in this area. They can accomplish that without actually handing Barnes a pink slip, if that's such an unthinkable thing. This is precisely what happened with Abrams. I just don't get why they won't consider something like this with Barnes. I have to conclude they continue to think he's great at his job, even though the end results are extremely poor year-in and year-out over many, many years now.



JS has to make some medical and training changes this off season!

Doing nothing and having another injury plagued year under him will have ramifications.

He cannot sit on his hands   He has to make some changes and moves.
#6
If there is a run on QBs for the top 4 teams and 2-3 QBs are picked at 6 we are looking at still getting a top 3 pick potentially cause we know not all of those QBs will be home runs.  1 or more will not live up to potential.

How many #1 QBs are busts.  Hence tanking or winning irrelevant games as some people like to say is a joke.  You play to win PERIOD!  Now it's time to put your scouting team to work.

How is it the Ravens have been a top tier organization for ages now?  They draft and sign FA well.  They may not have a ton of SB trophies in the cabinet but they put together competitive teams and have winning records when healthy.

That is the level we need to get to!  Losing games to be lower in the draft order to get better players doesn't = better team or the Lions would have been better for the last 20 years!

I didn't vote cause my vote is let JS do what JS will do!

JS gets players!  Dabs plays who he gets!

We root for them to win.
#7
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 08, 2024, 08:50:38 AM@Painter @Slugsy-Narrows


No True Scotsman Logical Fallacy

Description:

The argument defends an assertion by disallowing, by definition, all counterexamples, emphasizing that we are only talking about true examples of whatever population is under consideration.

 

Comments:

The fallacy takes its name from the colorful example (paraphrased below) that Anthony Flew originally invented to illustrate it.

 

Examples:

"No true Scotsman puts brown sugar on his porridge. The fact that Angus MacGregor puts brown sugar on his porridge just proves that he's no true Scotsman!"

 

"Liberals are a bunch of latte-sucking elitist pseudo-intellectuals from New England. Of course, Hubert Humphrey was from South Dakota, so I'm not talking about him."

 

Discussion:

Political parties and other interest groups need to have principles, and a person who claims to be a member of that party or group, while denying the central principles that define the group, is surely mistaken or confused. For example, one could hardly be an atheist while believing that Vishnu is the deity responsible for sustaining and supporting the universe. It is reasonable to demand some standards of behavior or belief, and there is no fallacy in saying that no true atheist worships Vishnu.

The No True Scotsman fallacy mimics this demand for standards, but it attempts to create (by definition) membership criteria that are not the defining criteria that we normally expect (or that are actually in force).

The No True Scotsman fallacy is used in two ways. It can be used to try to enforce conformity and orthodoxy within a particular group, and it can also be used by people outside the group to "define" the group in negative ways. When the fallacy is used in the second of these ways it can bear a strong resemblance to the Straw Man fallacy, i.e. creating a misrepresentation of an opponent's view. The fallacy also bears some resemblance to the fallacy of Equivocation, since the term at issue--"Scotsman" for example--shifts its meaning: a Scotsman is a member of a particular geographic or ethnic group, vs. a Scotsman is a member of that group who doesn't put brown sugar on his porridge. Despite these similarities, I have classified the No True Scotsman fallacy as an Inductive circularity, since it seems to me that the central error in the fallacy is the use of mere stipulation to disallow observable counterexamples that would otherwise refute the arguer's generalization about a population.

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#8
Quote from: ozzie on January 08, 2024, 08:42:44 AMAlways rough when someone loses a job, but it was time for both.
Now....someone needs to address the Medical staff & Ronnie Barnes.

Barnes needs to retire this offseason
#9
Quote from: Painter on January 08, 2024, 02:23:34 AMThere is all we really need to know as to who is, and who is not, a real fan as opposed to some wannabe GM phony-ass.  At least, you now where you can shove it.

Cheers!


Agreed!

The draft is a crap shoot!  If it wasn't then MR Irrelevant wouldn't be Starting QB in SF and Brady would have never been Brady!

As a fan you root for your team to win!  At all costs!

The offseason is why you have a great GM and scouts to win the offseason!

Any fan rooting to lose for a better draft position to me has their priorities all wrong!
#10
Quote from: londonblue on January 08, 2024, 08:31:51 AMDaboll says he expects Wink and Kafka back but they might have other ideas. We have fired the two guys who had to go so that is an encouraging start.

Bingo the two that HAD TO GO ARE GONE!

Now we need Barnes to Retire and things are looking up!

I wouldn't be surprised if Kafka moves on.  Now that the Bills OC was let go and it's who Dabs actually wanted I wouldn't be surprised if that is the move.

Wink going would stun me.
#11
Neal is my disappointment.  Hoped year 2 he come into his own and was at least serviceable on the right.

He may need to move to G!  He doesn't seem to be a OT at the NFL level.


I just hope JS doesn't pull a DG/Flowers and be stubborn on moving him.

https://gmenhq.com/posts/evan-neal-update-further-proves-ny-giants-should-move-him-guard-01hhqe8b0hse
#12
Regardless of what happens today!

If he beats the Eagles at least once, and the Eagles don't have the B team out there I think he becomes more legit than fluke.

A win today and against the Eagles and we would have to ask to see more and want more as we haven't beaten the eagles in forever!

Regardless I'm just enjoying a few more wins and hoping for the best!  This is a JS and Dabs issue to figure out as us fans have no say anyway.
#14
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Wan 'Dale appreciating the moment
December 12, 2023, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: TDToomer on December 12, 2023, 08:48:46 AMWith his and Hyatts speed why aren't we calling more duo post & fly route plays.

Kafka enough said
#15
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on December 12, 2023, 08:22:24 AMI don't think there's anyone on this board who's not behind him or on the train right now.

I think the only difficulty people have is annotating him as the QB of the future, that's certainly my view.

He is our QB for now!  Live in the now, enjoy the now and worry about tomorrow when it happens!