Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 10:50:01 AMThis team still has a ways to go to get back to where we want to be but three years ago the only Giant you could point to and say that he has pro bowl/all pro potential was Barkley. At that point Lawrence was still a bit of a disappointment.

Today is a completely different story.  We have guys like Thomas, Okereke, Lawrence, Burns and Thibs who are at that level or are on the cusp of being in that discussion. Then we have several young guys (Nabers, Hyatt and Banks) who have the physical tools to develop into outstanding NFL players but the school is still out on. Now if we can only find a quarterback....

The point of this post is that I understand why some posters feel lost and frustrated that we aren't improving but we are. The level of talent on the roster is the best it's been in close to a decade. It isn't being felt yet due to poor quarterback play or age but you can't deny that we've accumulated some really nice pieces.

Good post and a fair assessment.  In looking at the names you listed, I conclude that more of the defensive players are either there or ready to emerge and that the offensive players may be earlier in their development.  All need to continue developing.

Maybe Shane Bowen will max the defensive talent in a way that Wink did not.

That said, the OL must (no MUST) make the greatest leap as a position group.  That should benefit everyone on offense.

Then all eyes will be on the QB.  I hope he pulls a Rich Gannon type career and finds his groove later in his career like now.

I think we need to look at it this way.  Nabers was a top shelf addition, however, we need a Guard and RB.  That should complete the talent upgrade then it will be up to the new OL coach to fuse the OL into a good cohesive group.

After that, DJ will only have 1 year (next season) to either be the QB or next draft we will go into full bore draft a QB mode.  We could have gotten one this season albeit with some uncertainty, but instead, we drafted a very high end talent with high floor and a super high ceiling.  You can't fault the team for that.

I liked other OTs rather than JC Latham.  Harbaugh was brilliant to select Alt.  Titans should have looked elsewhere.  Not a fan of that pick.

Atlanta selecting Penix was ridiculous after securing Cousins.  Complete waste of a pick.

I think Dallas trading back did nothing for them.  Yeah they got Guyton, but they needed help at CB also and going back put them in a less advantageous position.

KC landing Xavier Worthy was brilliant.

Quote from: TDToomer on Today at 09:26:54 AMI definitely want to see a RB drafted today. If not no lower than the 4th round.

A breakaway, pass catching RB would be a nice piece to add to this offense which lost one nice piece in Barkley and needs a healthy replacement.  Eric Gray is not the answer.

I see a lot of frustration in this post.  Waking up this morning, I realize that BPA is a great approach as a team needs both top end talent and a lot of depth.  Giants addressed the former in spades with Nabers.  Now, let's hope they continue to stockpile more top end talent.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:05:21 AMThis is an excellent perspective, Mickey.  If the team can enjoy reasonably good health and break their decade-plus-long trend of bad offensive line play, we may finally get to see what Daniel Jones is truly capable of.

I think to complete this rebuild on offense at least for this season, the Giants need to draft a good RB and a Guard.  Draft Jaylen Wright to blow the top off of defenses with his speed ala Achane and draft a Guard who can step in Day 1 and be a good starter.  Someone like Zak Zinter.

I just don't hope the Giants get stupid and waste a draft pick on a Spencer Rattler or Joe Milton type QB.  We don't need a lottery ticket.  We have other positions to address.  If after 2025, DJ is still not getting it done, then it will be 100% QB focus.

I think Mike Sainristil will go before Gmen pick.  I like a Guard or RB.  Keep working on the offense.

 Vikings and JJ.

Best landing spot of all the six teams with the offensive talent there.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 10:14:52 PMIf the line proves adequate, the receiving trio of Nabers, Hyatt, and Robinson should finally give DJ his first set of NFL-caliber receivers since he got to the NFL.

If Jones can stay healthy and he can overcome the trauma of last season, then there is a potential for Jones to be a top-10 guy

If DJ continues to throw 2 yard passes on 3rd and 12, Nabers will not have mattered.  DJ needs to throw downfield now.

If Nabers makes DJ a top 10 QB I will be jacked as I like DJ.  If he throws for 2,500 yards, 16 TDs, 9 INTs and is sacked 60+ times, I will really wonder about this pick.

How is this different than Saquon pick?  RB needs an OL.  WR needs a QB.

No surprise.  Have to know Harbaugh.

One year ago, I made a very bold prediction on this board and said JJ McCarthy would be drafted top 20 in 2024.  Insane prediction at the time, right?

My prediction now is he goes top 6 and if available, Giants take him at 6.

Additionally, I predict if he is a Giant, that even if DJ is healthy and starting by game 1, JJ will replace him by game 5 or sooner.

Risking it all now.

I read that the Cards dont want to trade back beyond 6 because they want one of the big WRs and especially Harrison or pick of Nabers/Odunze.

I think that affects Vikings trading up to 4.

When people get far enough upside down, they are most likely to take the greatest risk as their downside is minimal.