Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 15, 2024, 08:13:56 AMThe "Daniel Jones doesn't throw contested passes" myth was created as a way to blame Daniel Jones for Kenny Galladay being signed to a big free-agent contract after injuries had robbed him of his speed.

The reality is that tight window throws are DJ's bread and butter (out of necessity most likely)


Daniel Jones On Short Passes, 2019-2022
data per Next Gen Stats

SEASON    TIGHT WINDOW%    RANK
2019    17.8%    1st
2020    16.7%    2nd
2021    14.7%    1st
2022    10.3%    10th

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/daniel-jones-breakout-playoffs-future-daboll-giants/

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If we draft Maye he can miss him by the side of a barn. If we draft JJ, he can bird dog him and get picked. Draft Williams and if Odunze drops a pass, and loses a game, he will climb into the stands and cry in his mommy's arms. Draft Daniels and he will throw the ball, then run past him and make the catch. Penix will pull a hammy and Nix will check down.

Maybe it's better to stay with the devil we know. No guarantees in life as a Giants fan.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 14, 2024, 11:38:24 AMObjectively your number choice is no better supported. How are they pushing a narrative but you are not?  I am not seeing a fair justification for your strong deragotory accusation.

I'm not pushing a narrative Rich, I'm saying the entire purpose of their post was BS. If you don't like what I have to say about it, that's fine but don't attack my opinion. I have every right to have it without people like you jumping down my throat. Strong derogatory accusation indeed. I don't care that you posted it. I'm sure you're running out of things to talk about. 

Quote from: Painter on April 14, 2024, 11:23:24 AMFWIW. Even more explicit.

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/14/brian-baldinger-tiki-barber-warns-new-york-giants-against-drafting-jj-mccarthy/?newsletter_origin=giantswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=0&email=emailaddr

Cheers!

Maybe he was looking at a highlight reel? 

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 14, 2024, 11:19:52 AMEd,

How exactly do you know this stat is "deliberately" misleading?  Do you know the employee on 33rd team that made the stat?  Can you explain why that employee was deliberately trying to mislead?   What exactly was the purpose of deception?

I don't know the motivation but when ten QB's have 29 or more TD's and the cut off is 30, it's a red flag to a narrative they are pushing. That narrative is that the league is either void of good QB talent or as you are pushing that they lack a supporting cast of talent around them. It sure got you to bite.

That tweet was deliberately misleading. Almost a third of the league had a QB with 29 plus TD's and over 3900 yards passing.

If they trade down they might.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 14, 2024, 10:45:08 AMHere's a question.  If Giants do draft a QB at 6 does ownership give Dabs, Schoen, etc more than just next season to develop him otherwise we run into problem of mismatch between new head coach and previous regime's QB.

Yes

Quote from: Philosophers on April 14, 2024, 10:29:49 AMThat is what I am saying.

I know.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 14, 2024, 10:16:48 AMWhat I am saying is how I think the Giants feel, not how I feel.

I think he is damaged goods both physically and mentally.  Giants failed in protecting him last season so hard to tell what 2023 would have been had he played whole season and gotten sacked say 35 times.  His psyche is affected as he won't gamble on downfield throws.  Now Giants need a new QB.

I think he's broken.

Quote from: katkavage on April 14, 2024, 10:09:17 AMWith a 1,500 yard rusher, yeah. And hope the opposition misses chip shot field goals. Wild card is the high ceiling.

I agree, if you have been following my posts on him. I also have cautious enthusiasm for JJ McCarthy but his book in only in the first chapter.

https://www.threads.net/@profootballtalk/post/C5uLkPgsi9n/?xmt=AQGz3PgPsI-pVo8pW-3xur1DkGuYB2L_46NUPZW9-gW9xg

Quote from: Philosophers on April 14, 2024, 09:14:47 AMI think the Giants feel if they get better OL play especially in pass rush plus get a WR1 and add another RB or TE that a healthy DJ can be a top 12 or maybe top 10 QB and that they can win with that.  I also think they are less concerned than fans are about the injury history and conclude better protection insures against that.  This is the reason they go WR at 6 and maybe RB in round 2 or 3.  If DJ fails, Dabs will be gone and a new coach will then go get another QB in 2025 however the offense will now have a true X WR1, plus a good WanDale and Jalin and a young RB to build around a new rookie QB.

I think they can win games and he was a top twelve QB in 2022. In the right system perhaps he can repeat it. I have my doubts after last season.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-nfl-quarterback-rankings-and-tiers