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Quote from: londonblue on Today at 11:55:04 AMMighty, I back and forth with Ceri for months in the run up to the draft so I guess a bit of my brain seeps into his around the edges. At this point my Board is specific only to players I would take (so fit as well as grade) but by position and within position in order here are my first rounders:

QB: Williams*, Maye*, McCarthy, Daniels
RB: N/A
TE: Bowers
WR: Harrison Jr*, Odunze*, Nabers, Thomas Jr
OT: Alt, Fuaga, Latham, Fashanu, Fautanu
IOL: Barton
ED: Verse
DE/DT: Murphy
LB: N/A
S/NCB: N/A
CB: Mitchell, Arnold

19 in total

Of the above I only have 4 with potential gold-jacket/multiple all-pro grades as indicated by *

If I have any medical or character Qs I exclude them from * status but keep in R1 if I deem them 'minor'

4 bigger medical Qs not included above but grade high enough for me if cleared to have a R1 grade: Latu, Newton, DeJean, McKinstry

Just my view. My lack of love for the D guys shines through with some notable omissions.

Interested why you don't see Dallas Turner as a first-rounder.

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Quote from: Ed Vette on April 22, 2024, 07:31:18 PMA moron put this one together.

What I meant to say was a moron created that day's strand. I hope you read it that way.

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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on April 22, 2024, 07:26:40 PMI was just curious LOL!


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It's the media making it a thing. Not you.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 22, 2024, 07:25:04 PMUmmmm... ok.


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A moron put this one together.

Who gives a $hit. Move on.

The Jets Organization is trash and Wilson isn't as bad as advertised. Soon Aaron Rodgers will expose them. Another example of a young QB in a bad situation.

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Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 09:24:01 AMI am beginning to move toward that position.  It does seem that there is talent to be had in the later rounds, but teams are far too focused on round one.   When you look at the top 30 visits, as reported, roughly half the prospects brought in are projected to go round one.  There are 7 rounds in the draft (in the Giants case 6) so half the visits are devoted to round one and half the remaining visits are left for the next five picks.

I think it's done more as a smokescreen and it's a waste of time. They should only be bringing in those players they need to learn more about. If they don't know this QB Draft Class by now, they never will. Now Nabors would be a productive visit because of the character concerns.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 09:15:48 AMWhile I understand Ed's point, I have a different take.  I think this is a case where the first batter is walking up to the plate in the bottom of the ninth with their team down 3 runs (and no one on base).  A good draft could be the start of a game-winning rally, but it just as easily could be the beginning of the end.

The reality is the team's talent level at the start of year three of Schoen's tenure doesn't seem all that different from the talent level he inherited.  While picking 6th is nice, only 6 picks is less than ideal, in light of all the teams remaining needs.

Rich, my point really centers around whether they pick a QB or not and how that molds the future in the near term and long term. Think of the multi-Universe or Dimension theory, where there are many choices taking action and each action creates a reality and that reality can branch off into other realities or Dimensions. This is the year because of the timing with Jones' status and the deep QB Draft Class where one decision can have profound consequences both favorable and unfavorable. For example, those six picks can go down to 4 or five and impact the 2025 Draft if they move up. If they stay and pick a QB, if they stay and pick another position, if they trade back once or twice and the players they choose, QB included or not.

This is a pivotal Draft Year.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 08:27:50 AMThe funny thing with the 2007 draft is it gave a great bump during their rookie season, but there wasn't much sustained success



1    CB Aaron Ross   
2    WR Steve Smith   
3    DT Jay Alford
4    LS Zak DeOssie   
5    TE Kevin Boss   
6    OL Adam Koets   
7    DB Michael Johnson   
7    RB Ahmad Bradshaw


Pick for pick I think the 2005 draft class was impressive (they were missing picks due to the Eli Manning trade.  When you look at this draft and the Rams draft classes, I wonder if teams spend too much time focusing on their first pick.  It seems like teams that don't have a first-pick draft are better in the other rounds.


2    Corey Webster    43    DB
3    Justin Tuck    74    DE   
4    Brandon Jacobs    110    RB   
6    Eric Moore    186    DE       

Rich, your pound-for-pound analysis as suggested by @AYM got me thinking that by not having a first-round pick, the Scouts and Accorsi were able to concentrate their efforts more on players later in the draft. An enormous amount of time and effort is spent on scouting the first round, visiting schools, attending games, and interviews, and bringing them in for a visit. Even having a late first-round pick requires scouting more than half that class in the event they drop. What do you both think?

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