Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 04:19:47 PMAccumulating draft capital is always good in my mind as the so-called quality at the top often does not correlate to NFL success.  Love the more bites at the apple strategy.

Yep - and if this draft is deep, you're not trading a blue chip for red chips, but maybe a blue and a purple.

For example - Gettleman did the right thing when he traded down in 2021. The mistake(s) were drafting Toney and Neal with those picks. There were clearly blue chip players drafted not too far after both that we could have had.

Quote from: katkavage on Today at 04:43:41 PMThe QB won't start for the Giants in 2024, so no, nothing like the mess Young was put in.

And 2024 will be rough whether the draft a QB or not. I'm looking at 2025

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 04:24:48 PMKind of like the Giants.

The QB won't start for the Giants in 2024, so no, nothing like the mess Young was put in.

Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 04:04:12 PMHere's a hypothetical, because why not?:

How do you all think Jones would perform if he were swapped with Brock Purdy? I continually here that Purdy is nothing special and he just quarterbacks a loaded offense. 

Purdy displays much better awareness than Jones. He is a better QB, talent around him aside.

Quote from: katkavage on Today at 02:31:39 PMThe Pats will be in a Bryce Young situation if they take a QB. Whoever he is, he will get battered. They have nothing.

Kind of like the Giants.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 02:00:58 PMPatriots just announced they were open for buisness at pick 3. If that is true then one of the top 4 likely falls in our lap.

How so?  That Pats are widely expected to pick a QB.  If they trade down, their trade partner will be widely expected to pick a QB.  How does that change the likelihood that one of the top 4 falls in our lap?

Accumulating draft capital is always good in my mind as the so-called quality at the top often does not correlate to NFL success.  Love the more bites at the apple strategy.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 02:14:27 PMIt shouldn't though because as much as people try to act like Jones was magnificent in 2022, he wasn't the 3200 yards and 15 tds show that. So if he duplicates 2022 then in my eyes it's even more obvious we need a change. A 6th year Qb that can't throw for 4,000 yards when 4th rd picks come into this league every year and do it with less talent should be alarming.

If that's the case we should definitely trade down, although I don't know who you're talking about. 

In 2023 3 QBs were taken in the 4th round.  Only one played and he threw for 2200 yards.
In 2022 1 QB was taken in the 4th round and in 2 seasons threw for 2000 yards combined.
In 2021 1 QB was taken in the 4th round and he has 135 career passing yards.

Did I misunderstand your statement?  Hyperbole?  Color me confused.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 02:00:58 PMPatriots just announced they were open for buisness at pick 3. If that is true then one of the top 4 likely falls in our lap.

Assuming the team moving up to 3 takes a QB, that means they'll be one left and 2 selections before us. In such a scenario I think it's more likely someone tries to grab QB 4 at the two slots before us. But who knows...all will be revealed in a week

Quote from: katkavage on Today at 04:00:56 PMThat right there. Unless you are the 85 Bears or 2000 Ravens, it's just not gonna happen with Jones. Go through his career and look how many games where he put the team on his shoulders and beat a real good team. (And I can hear the chorus of excuses blowing in the wind).

Here's a hypothetical, because why not?:

How do you all think Jones would perform if he were swapped with Brock Purdy? I continually here that Purdy is nothing special and he just quarterbacks a loaded offense.