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Title: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: ELCHALJE on July 17, 2017, 09:11:57 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-cowboys-rb-ezekiel-elliott-involved-in-bar-altercation/ar-BBEALAo?li=BBnba9I&ocid=DELLDHP
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: MightyGiants on July 17, 2017, 09:29:54 AM
The seriousness of this is yet to be determined.  However, there were already reports that Elliot was looking at a one to two game suspension for his prior domestic violence incident.  If there is anything to this incident it certainly will not help his cause.   Throw in the incident where Elliot exposed a woman's breast in public and you have the making of a typical bad person Dallas Cowboy.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: MP21WAYS2PAY on July 17, 2017, 11:10:33 AM
As long as he is out week 1, I don't care what he gets. 

Our biggest question mark on defense going into week 1 would be how the run D holds up without Hankins and possibly with a new starting MLB.  Getting to start vs Alfred Morris/DRC, Lions RB?, Eagles RB?, and a Doug Martin-less Bucs, would be a great start for our run defense to jell.


Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: uconnjack8 on July 17, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
Regardless of Elliot's status for week 1, maybe a win for the 2nd year in a row puts Jerrah in enough of a tizzy to demand we don't start the season in Dallas in 2018. 
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: MightyGiants on July 17, 2017, 12:59:26 PM
Ezekiel Elliott - RB - Cowboys
TMZ Sports reports a witness saw Ezekiel Elliott punch a man at a Dallas-area bar Sunday night.
A video shows the victim laying on the ground after the incident, but there is no video of the actual altercation. The victim suffered a broken nose. Despite a witness identifying Elliott as the assailant, police did not make any arrests because of a lack of information and the fact the witness appeared to be intoxicated. Police also did not speak with Elliott because he was gone by the time they arrived. No charges have been filed at this time.
Source: TMZ Sports Jul 17 - 11:31 AM
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: Zombo on July 17, 2017, 01:19:50 PM
I smell some Cowboy justice coming...unless they have a tape...and if there was one bar probably
already erased...I bet he skates...this time......there will be more to follow
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: LennG on July 17, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Jerrah is like Don Vito. All he needs to do is ask, or, make them an offer they can't refuse, and it all goes away.  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: Shoelessjoe on July 17, 2017, 05:54:27 PM
I don't think that you are doing Elliot a favor by always allowing him to escape these escapades.  At some point one of these incidents will come back to bite him in the you know what and you may see a very promising career going up in smoke.  Just my take as a parent who has seen a host of kids get off the hook by their parents and eventually those kids get into a problem that is so big that not even mom or dad can get them out of trouble.  If people are made to be responsible for their actions no matter how big or small they made be they tend to mature and become responsible citizens.  You don't see the Mannings in these type of situations.  I remember Archie telling a story about Peyton when he was about 10.  Archie saw Peyton talking critically to a coach about what he was doing wrong.  Archie latter drove Peyton to the coaches house and made him apologize to the coach for what he did.  You learn and you grow.  It not always what happens to you that is important but how you deal with what happens you that defines the type of person that you are.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: todge on July 17, 2017, 05:54:50 PM
I smell some Cowboy justice coming...unless they have a tape...and if there was one bar probably
already erased...I bet he skates...this time......there will be more to follow

A more likely scenario is a deal probably in the works as we speak.  How much money will it take for you to not "remember" who hit you?  With Jerry gladly arranging the cash transaction.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: slugsnarrows on July 17, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
Where there is smoke there is fire!  To much is smoldering around this kid.


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Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: Jintsman74 on July 17, 2017, 09:26:17 PM
Odell may have his issues but at least he isn't out there doing what Elliot has done. No, I am not trying to make this out to be about Odell but what Elliot has done is far worse.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: Ed Vette on July 18, 2017, 07:03:27 AM
I don't think that you are doing Elliot a favor by always allowing him to escape these escapades.  At some point one of these incidents will come back to bite him in the you know what and you may see a very promising career going up in smoke.  Just my take as a parent who has seen a host of kids get off the hook by their parents and eventually those kids get into a problem that is so big that not even mom or dad can get them out of trouble.  If people are made to be responsible for their actions no matter how big or small they made be they tend to mature and become responsible citizens.  You don't see the Mannings in these type of situations.  I remember Archie telling a story about Peyton when he was about 10.  Archie saw Peyton talking critically to a coach about what he was doing wrong.  Archie latter drove Peyton to the coaches house and made him apologize to the coach for what he did.  You learn and you grow.  It not always what happens to you that is important but how you deal with what happens you that defines the type of person that you are.

Great observation about life and accountability in raising young men and women, Frank. You have three outstanding young men to prove it.




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Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: Shoelessjoe on July 18, 2017, 09:58:10 AM
Thanks Ed.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: COGiantFan on July 18, 2017, 11:57:09 AM
Great observation about life and accountability in raising young men and women, Frank. You have three outstanding young men to prove it.




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It doesn't help that the league itself has contributed to his sense of being above the law or rules.

Contrast the league's reaction to two incidents last year by 2 high profile players. 

After a terrific TD play OBJ does not violate the letter of the rules, since he was off of the field of play, as defined in the rules, before removing his helmet, but nevertheless is penalised because, it is said, he violated the spirit of the rule because he wasn't in the team bench area - - even though that isn't how the rules read. 

After Elliot made a terric TD play he clearly used a prop in his celebration - the Salvation Army kettle, which is a clear  black-line violation of the rules and no penalty, because why?  Because he is the new darling of the league and it was the Salvation Army and it was the Christmas season??
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: coggs on July 18, 2017, 02:23:26 PM
Boomer and Carton this morning, if I heard it right (I was just getting into the car as they were in the middle of it), made it seem like there is evidence that Elliot did not throw the first punch here.  We shall see.  But, if he did anything give him a lifetime ban without pay, and then revoke all of the C*wb*ys draft picks for the next 5 years.  Maybe another salary cap penalty can be applied, too!
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: uconnjack8 on July 18, 2017, 03:48:49 PM
Boomer and Carton this morning, if I heard it right (I was just getting into the car as they were in the middle of it), made it seem like there is evidence that Elliot did not throw the first punch here.  We shall see.  But, if he did anything give him a lifetime ban without pay, and then revoke all of the C*wb*ys draft picks for the next 5 years.  Maybe another salary cap penalty can be applied, too!

The story I heard this morning was that there was a witness that says Elliot did not throw any punches at all. 

Check to see if Jerrah sends him a 1099 at the end of the year.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: coggs on July 19, 2017, 07:43:52 AM
Most places have surveillance now.  My thinking is if he was the agressor or anyway at fault, TMZ would have had it by now.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: uconnjack8 on July 19, 2017, 11:35:16 AM
Most places have surveillance now.  My thinking is if he was the agressor or anyway at fault, TMZ would have had it by now.

TMZ may be bidding against Jerry for that footage.
Title: Re: NGT--More trouble for Ezekiel Elliott
Post by: MightyGiants on July 19, 2017, 12:09:13 PM
The sad thing is the comments about Jerry Jones are not the usual fan trash talk.  Jerry Jones really is horrible human being

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It was 10 years ago that the Cowboys owner found himself in a similarly awkward predicament. During a training-camp melee within the team's facility at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, Texas, wide receiver Michael Irvin stabbed a teammate in the neck with a pair of scissors. The victim, an offensive lineman named Everett McIver, had refused Irvin's demand to rise from the barber's chair during a haircut. Following an exchange of shoves and punches, McIver found himself grasping his neck, blood shooting from a two-inch gash. "The whole scene was crazy," said Cowboys cornerback Kevin Smith. "I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I mean, we were on the same team."

Having already been on probation for an incident involving a motel room, drugs and strippers, Irvin was all but guaranteed jail time after this episode. So instead of letting the legal system run its course, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys' front office stepped in. McIver was paid handsomely to never report the stabbing, and when everyone involved later spoke of "horseplay" gone awry, McIver nodded and moved on with his life. (A word of wisdom for the kiddies: Don't get into an argument when the other guy is holding scissors. It rarely ends well).

Shortly thereafter, when The Dallas Morning News reported the stabbing and the payoff, Jerry Jones was reduced to looking like a lawless, reckless buffoon. It hardly helped matters when he threatened to remove team advertising from the newspaper.

http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/081016