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General Category => Chalk Talk => Topic started by: bighitterdalama on April 09, 2012, 12:35:38 AM

Title: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: bighitterdalama on April 09, 2012, 12:35:38 AM
The Eli Manning to Mario Manningham pass in Super Bowl XLVI is perhaps the most perfectly executed pass play in Super Bowl history. It is also with no doubt the play that resulted in the Giants winning their fourth Super Bowl in the past twenty six years, the most Super Bowl victories over that time span by any organization in the NFL. Following the game, I decided that I would examine the available video and break down the play for posting onto the Big Blue Huddle. I have broken down the play into its constituent parts. I hope that you all enjoy it. 

The Situation

The Patriots lead the Giants, 17-15, fourth quarter, with 3:46 remaining in the game. The Giants have the ball, first and ten, on their own twelve yard line. The ball sits on the left hash mark. This is particularly important, as the pre-snap ball position makes the right side of the field the wide side.

The Personnel

The Giants
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: tomeee on April 09, 2012, 07:36:06 AM
Great stuff, amazing analysis for an amazing play. :ok: :ok: :ok:
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: BlueMoshik on April 09, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
Brian, nothing to add except:

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Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: MightyGiants on April 09, 2012, 08:22:36 AM
Good job Brian :ok:
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: vette5573 on April 09, 2012, 08:30:56 AM
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Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: Dumpster Dan on April 09, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Big Hitter

  You brought the entire play back to life for me--I didn't need the You Tube--As I read your analysis I could picture the entire play unfolding

Thanks a million

Fladan
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: files58 on April 09, 2012, 05:51:56 PM
Thank you. Yes it was a terrific catch, but each time I watch the play I am more and more amazed by the pass itself. Eli could not have been more accurate if he handed the ball to MM on the sideline. How many QB's past and present can make that throw?
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: spiderblue43 on April 09, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
Eli had those moments last year of unbelievable fortitude and ability to move and slide, stay within the process and stand and deliver. He simply was incredibly great last year. Amazing. Whatever happened in the off season to fuel his fire, it worked. That throw was on a dime, to heave it almost 45 yards on target is elite, superstar talent. He is very special and we are blessed to have him.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: joeynygiants on April 09, 2012, 06:36:35 PM
what is very strange is thats those two plays were both truly special plays in the history of the super bowl.

both lead to the winning tds drives, which both defeated tom brady.

this is why manning will probably make the hall of fame.

he never has miss a game, needs 14 td passes to pass simms all time.

just think, more to come.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: files58 on April 09, 2012, 07:11:58 PM
and he is getting better each year.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: Sem on April 09, 2012, 08:43:38 PM
Wow, excellent analysis BHD.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: President Rick on April 09, 2012, 08:51:15 PM
nice analysis.  thanks for all the hard work.  one other thing really impressed me on this play, and it occurred prior to the snap.....your clips don't show it but the nfl net replay of the game does. 

watch MM as he lines up for the play.  he barely nods toward Eli and subtly points down the field...it was just enough to say "I see it too".  MM was seeing where the pats' safeties were set, inside near the hashmarks, as the clips show.  MM correctly read just what Eli was seeing and thinking.  Run the deep sideline pattern.  QB and WR were right on the same line of the same page.  Both knew what the play had to be.  And Eli threw a perfect pass.  Go Giants.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: jimmyz on April 09, 2012, 09:37:10 PM
Eli only froze Chung for a fraction of a second.  Chung still got into the area of the field where the pass was thrown.  It was a perfect pass.  All the credit goes to Eli on this play.  The coverage was by no means shabby.  The ball was just dropped in perfectly and was by all counts undefensible.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: bldevil on April 10, 2012, 01:39:08 AM
Great analysis.  It also nicely highlights that this play wasn't simply earned on the playing field but also on the practice field and in the film room.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: andrew_nyg on April 10, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
Brian...awesome work! Thanks for the insight.

Funnily enough, for some reason when you put this up I assumed the Manning to Manningham winning TD connection in the NFC Championship game in Frisco  :D

Mario certainly had his share of moments in this run.

Regarding Eli, I marvel at how fast these reads need to be made, and how quickly he executes.

It's scary to think about Eli continuing this level of play with a sufficient running game and better pass protection moving forward.  =D>

Thanks again, BIG HITTER!
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: LennG on April 11, 2012, 11:37:26 AM

Another Home run by the Big Hitter.

Just a fantastic job Brian. Reliving the entire scenareo is just great.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: Giant Obsession on April 11, 2012, 11:26:12 PM
Hall of Fame post...forget the 5 year wait.

That is why this board is so good.
Title: Re: Anatomy of a Play: The Big Hitter Breaks Down the Manning to Manningham Pass
Post by: bighitterdalama on April 12, 2012, 12:55:06 AM
Quote from: Giant Obsession on April 11, 2012, 11:26:12 PM
Hall of Fame post...forget the 5 year wait.

That is why this board is so good.

Mike,

You're killing me, man, your killing me.  :laugh:

I actually had the play broken down two days after the Super Bowl (the day after was tough). The problem I had was that the video I could find left some gaps as to defensive personnel and alignment. I assumed that Mayo was LLB and Spikes RLB (I was correct), but the numbers were tough to read, as was Ihedigbo as the left safety. Warren's alignment was the toughest read. I really could not tell if he was in a zero, one, or two technique. It was not until I watched an end zone video (which is no longer available) that I realized that he was in a two technique, directly over the guard. It was only until I watched the video that I was certain that the Patriots were aligned properly and had schemed well, given down, distance, and situation.

If you take a look at the overall video, you will see that the Patriots play a classic 4-2-5 cover two nickel defense. In no way can this set be utilized as a base defense, as not all gaps are covered. If the Giants run a simple counter trap, Bradshaw will run for, at worse, a six to eight yard gain. The Pats, at that point, given down, distance, and situation, were more than willing to give up that much yardage to a run play that would take time off the clock. Hence Spikes' positioning, where, if Diehl kicks out to seal off a run, he (Spikes), if not able to make a play on Bradshaw himself, can (hopefully) at least feed Bradshaw towards the middle of a roll up defense. 

This all plays into Painter's post on the 4-2-5 base defense. I have a post upcoming on that issue that will simplify the matter for those that are not "Xs and Os" experts. So said, I will keep that out of this thread.

Big Hitter