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I agree, 75% and Engram on the outside replacing him.
Big Blue Huddle / The Window For Success
« on: July 19, 2017, 07:01:33 AM »
What does it take to sustain success in the NFL? There have been several teams that have won back to back Super Bowls, the last being the Patriots 12 years ago but these stories are few and far between.

The Giants have never been a repeat threat the following season after a Super Bowl Championship. The closest they came was 2008 and a Strike Year perhaps killed what might have been.

Does success lead to complacency in some cases? Is it the failure of the Coaching Staff to sustain that passion and focus necessary to beat the odds?

Does the Salary Cap and the structure that General Managers build into contracts created an ebb and flow of talent along with shorter peak production years for NFL careers?

How are teams like the Patriots able to remain competitive Year after year? Is it the healthy turnover of players while retaining a key nucleus and a great franchise QB. How much credit is due to the Ownership, Management, Scouting Staff and of course the Coaching Staff?

How does the level of Conference competition contribute to the success or lack of success to potentially strong teams?

How does the fan base and the environment or culture contribute or fail to support the energy of a team? How important is chemistry and having the perfect mix of personalities and leadership? you see the Giants building on their accomplishments of last season and how long will they be able to sustain a competitive team? Is this year the realistic window for the ultimate goal?

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It's funny how the anti-Eli crowd always bring up his INTs as a factor in holding him out of the Hall.  His career INT percentage is 3.2.  But, Brett Favre who is IN the Hall had a career percent of 3.3,  Hmmmmmmm. :-??

Eli will absolutely be in the HOF someday.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Finding a reason for Manning's slide
« on: July 17, 2017, 08:27:07 AM »
The article tells us nothing we didn't already know or discuss in great detail. What the author didn't touch on were injuries at the FB position and to Shane Vereen as Patti Traina pointed out and in the Offensive Program change since Gilbride left and McAdoo took over as well as the routes run and the play calling.

The point made is valid in that it's not just one thing that resulted in the abysmal Offensive performance of last season.

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How is Saturday July 28th? Andrew, check with the wife.

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I know with this down time, we're all chomping at the bit. But this excitement over Ellison and Engram as a two tight end whatever, pump the brakes there guys. TE Ellison hasn't been on the practice field yet. Does anyone know what the story is there? Because it sure has been a tight-lipped explanation in that regard. And as for calling Engram an NFL tight end. Put him in line and let him block some people, then maybe he's an NFL tight end? Until then he's a Wideout mismatch which is okay. Because he's going to generate real problems for the D. I mean, how is the Defense going to handle Engram, Marshall, and obj? :-??
That trio has the potential to tear up the league.

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"While Manning is more athletic than Brady"

I didn't think Eli was more athletic than anyone.  ;)

My thoughts are that I don't know if Ben will run more 2 TE sets in a 12 formation because it takes a Receiver off the field as in Shepard. If they run an 02 it places Ellison in motion as a Back or Inline. There must be a threat of a Running play for most sets. The run game is very important. I don't believe we will see Ellison on the field except for certain situations so I expect still a lot of 11 formation. If they use Ellison in Run situations only it limits and tips.

The Jury is still out on Ben McAdoo as a play caller as far as I'm concerned.
Ed, methinks dhat blue package helped take your mind off your yard... :ok:

You mean the neglectful neighbor.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Need Mailbag Questions Please
« on: July 14, 2017, 05:29:03 PM »
Injury update on Thompson, Smith and Ellison.
The Real Deal and the Total Package without any doubt. I pray he stays healthy.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Engram and Webb spending a lot of time together
« on: July 13, 2017, 06:18:48 PM »
And here I thought they were coming out.  Redfaced

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If he works hard and shows promise maybe he'll make the practice squad this year and compete for the roster next year.

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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Why Eli Manning is a lock for Hall of Fame
« on: July 11, 2017, 06:16:15 PM »
The sentiment on Eli changes game to game and year to year. He's at a low point right now in his career and recent memory is the clearest. Any career that ends on a high note leaves the best lasting impression.

These next two years are a pivotal point in Eli's career. If the downward spiral continues to the end, he may not be a lock. The story isn't over yet. There's a o lot of football to play.

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Big Blue Huddle / The Perfect QB
« on: July 07, 2017, 01:50:12 PM »
... the accuracy and touch of Drew Brees.

... the toughness and big-play ability of Ben Roethlisberger.

... the mental alertness of Tom Brady.

... the leadership ability of Philip Rivers.

... the athleticism of Cam Newton.

... the arm of Matthew Stafford.

... the running ability of Russell Wilson.

... the competitiveness of Aaron Rodgers.

I'll add one. The short memory and cool of Easy Eli.
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