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The funniest part is that the aggregate is a 43% hit rate.  All these fans will get excited about players their teams draft in round one, yet they have chances lower than a single coin flip that the player will succeed.

Quote from: jimc on Today at 03:51:59 PMI think what was interesting was him saying that they have 15 guys as first round material.  That tells me he would not want to move back beyond 15 because he would feel that he was getting second round goods.

Sometimes you can risk going a little lower as different teams have different games, but your point is excellent

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 03:34:42 PMhigh pressure world of professional sports

Two of my jobs literally risked people dying if I screwed up.  So when I hear about the "high pressure" entertainment industry jobs...

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 02:53:42 PMThat sounds disingenuous to me.  Whether or not the coach and general manager have a conviction about something is going to be influenced by what the owner has been saying and by a personal desire to survive, IMO.

Rich,

One thing I learned is to be true to my own convictions.   The reality is doing what you think will please your boss or others, will not protect you if things go south.   My feeling is if I am going to be called on the carpet for a decision, it will be one that I made based on my convictions.   I found being reamed out for a decision I didn't really agree with was a terrible experience.

some interesting insights

https://www.giants.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-preview-joe-schoen-general-manager-draft-order

I voted for Maye, but it's conditioned on the Giants staff believing he will be a franchise QB.

As much as I would love to fill the long and crippling hole at number one WR, you have to take a potential special QB when you can (and you are not sure you already have one for the foreseeable future)

EDIT TO ADD:  this is also conditioned the OP which says the player is available at 6, no trade up required

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on Today at 12:17:06 PMHe says he went to every game his father played in

LT- New York Giants (1981–1993)

LT III -  Born: 2002 (age 21 years), Miami, FL

 

I keep hearing the unsubstanciated claims of Mara meddling.  Apparently John Mara has heard those accusations as well


"They knew my feelings that I was hoping it didn't come to this, but again, at the end of the day I know sometimes every once in a while I read that — 'Oh, he's meddling, he's meddling,'" the NYG co-owner acknowledged candidly. Reacting: "No, we've run our organization the same way for many, many years. If the head coach and general manager have a conviction about a player or a group of players, I'm going to let them go ahead and make those decisions."

https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-giants/john-mara-saquon-barkley-eagles-meddling/

This topic has been merged into 1st-round picks that "hit" or "miss" by position.

I keep hearing the unsubstantiated claims that Mara "is meddling"  Apparently even John Mara has heard them:


"They knew my feelings that I was hoping it didn't come to this, but again, at the end of the day I know sometimes every once in a while I read that — 'Oh, he's meddling, he's meddling,'" the NYG co-owner acknowledged candidly. Reacting: "No, we've run our organization the same way for many, many years. If the head coach and general manager have a conviction about a player or a group of players, I'm going to let them go ahead and make those decisions."

https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-giants/john-mara-saquon-barkley-eagles-meddling/

Seems to me the Giants are certain to go offense in round one.  Considering the Giants' pressing needs, it seems to make sense that the two-day two picks be defense (likely CB and 3 tech DT).

So if the Giants go QB, the addition of a top receiver is off the table.

If the Giants go WR, the addition of a day-two QB like Rattler would be off the table.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on Today at 11:07:21 AMThat's about right, Rich. Not cheap. Seems similar to the Eli trade, no?

Would you do it? Yipes.

I wouldn't because the trade would leave the Giants in a position where they couldn't surround the QB with the needed talent

Here is his board of players he likes for the Giants

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 10:42:04 AMArt Stapleton swung this trade in his final mock

Giants get: Pick No. 3 and a 2024 fourth-round pick (No. 137)
Patriots get: Pick No 6, 2024 fourth-round pick (No. 107), 2025 first-round pick, 2025 third-round pick, wide receiver Darius Slayton

I think for a franchise qb that's super cheap.

Technically that would be the price of a potential franchise QB

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Several good 3Tech players in this Draft. I can see clubs being able to draft a solid one into the third round