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Nice. Props due to Richburg for setting the whole thing up, really.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: The Window For Success
« on: July 19, 2017, 11:01:42 AM »
I agree with several points that have already been written, two I'd like to add:

1. Perception is a big factor. Both the team's perception of their own abilities, and league-wide perception. If we use the Patriots, or the 1980s 49ers as examples, those teams had/have the perception that with a "genius" coach (Walsh, Belichick), and a great QB (Brady, Montana), they always had a very good chance to win it all. The perception that they had an edge or an ace in the hole in that regard changed the way teammates, coaches prepare and behave. They had to be ready for greatness, and they were willing to take risks. The 2008 Giants looked invincible and on track to repeat, however, the Burress incident broke that aura of invincibility for them, and once doubt crept in, the cycle of escalating confidence and performance fell apart.

2. A very select few people have the mentality to maintain internal motivation to be great after they have reached the pinnacle of their field. You look at Michael Jordan's almost pathological ability to turn any real or perceive slight or threat and turn it into something that continues to drive his focus and preparation, and you are looking at a very unique individual. Often the qualities that make great athletes or coaches great do not suit other realms of life where cooperation, caring, or balanced perspectives are useful. You are looking for a person who has exceptional talent, exceptional work ethic, and single-minded competitiveness/focus/drive on a single goal. That's a pretty unique combination of characteristics, and a situation where two or more people who share those characteristics team up often leads to a dynasty in sports (though often the people are no one you'd want to spend any time hanging around with...haha).
Whenever I see a situation like this, I think back to how the Giants stuck with Eli and showed full confidence in him through his struggle-ridden first three-and-a-half years. Without that support, he might never have blossomed.

Cousins is a young guy who has helped a team that has become a perennial loser get back in contention over the past couple years. His production is the best the franchise has seen from the QB position in a long time, maybe Mark Rypien's one solid year back in '91 - 26 years ago. Imagine if we were still waiting for the next Phil Simms.
These guys are all really good to great quarterbacks. As I've mentioned, I could really care less about the Hall of Fame or what talking heads say.

However, I will say that just putting up a yardage total or being whatever place on an all time list is no big deal necessarily either. Passing is so much more a part of the game now and there have been so many rule changes, and schematic developments to take care of those rule changes, that quarterbacks from older eras are at a disadvantage when compared to the current guys statistically.

To me, the only thing that will ever matter is how a guy performed when the chips were down and everything was riding on their play. Eli proved it in his two Super Bowl runs, and in many other ways. Roethlisberger proved it in '09 with his remarkable play in that Super Bowl run. Even Rivers, to me, won my respect when he almost beat the undefeated Patriots a week before the Giants did, playing through a bad knee injury. They are all icons of their franchises, having been top dog ever since getting their opportunity 11-14 years ago.
When we're talking about different formations taking cetrain guys off the field, I think that may not be as big of a concern.

I think it's OK for Shepard, or Marshall, or even OBJ to lose volume in terms of snaps, or even targets, if the catches they do make are more impactful because having more threats and variety means teams have a harder time defending them.

For example, Shepard and Beckham saw a lot of volume last year, but it didn't translate to a lot of points for the team, because opponents were able to jam them at the line and bottle them up over the top simultaneously. McAdoo has the tools now, so the stage is set for him to use them effectively.
Great video. Really fun to watch. Definitely worth 15mins for all the big Collins fans on the board.

Thanks Rich.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who was the worst QB in Giants history?
« on: July 13, 2017, 10:50:52 PM »
I'm always surprised when people bring up Tommy Maddox in these discussions. My memory is that he played in one game for the Giants in maybe 1995, not enough to make any kind of impression...but he seems to have made quite an impression on some fans.

He was actually probably the only competent NFL quarterback who was on the team from 1994-1998. He went to the Steelers late in his career and wound up starting and playing serviceably on a couple playoff teams.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who was the worst QB in Giants history?
« on: July 13, 2017, 11:38:47 AM »
I wasn't around for Pisarcik, but my guy is Dave Brown.

He just had the whole franchise thrown on his shoulders for really no good reason, which wasn't his fault, but he just couldn't play. I'm not sure I've ever seen a scenario league-wide where a player so bad was given so many chances without showing any promise at all.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who would be your all time Giants special teams
« on: July 12, 2017, 09:51:07 AM »
Reyna Thompson, David Tyree, and Dwayne Harris are my cover guys.

Sean Landeta the punter.

Raul Allegre the kicker...because he quietly saved that first Super Bowl season.

Dave Meggett was the best return man, but I almost want to disown him at this point, so... Phil McConkey.

Big Blue Huddle / Re: Why Eli Manning is a lock for Hall of Fame
« on: July 11, 2017, 02:34:54 PM »
I wish I felt that the Hall of Fame meant more, but since it is just a matter of media voting, it feels to me like a big popularity contest.

Eli has won the most significant prize twice, the only QB to beat the dynasty of his generation in a Super Bowl. Also, in my mind, he was clearly the best player in the league in 2011. That and many other accomplishments I and a lot of the rest of you guys have witnessed are much more meaningful to me than the retrospective acknowledgment of the Hall voters.

Besides, the enshrinement of individuals who play a team sport has always seemed weird to me.
Unfortunately, everything that the Knicks do now is perceived as dysfunctional and wrong.  They can't win in the public eye no matter what they do.

Unfortunately? Isn't that a natural result of 15 years of constant losing, punctuated by scandals, rapid turnover of otherwise highly successful coaches and executives, bickering, and trading away draft picks for highly paid free agents who don't pan out?
I thought Devon Kennard played well last year. The SAM position sees pretty limited snaps these days, but Spags made an effort to include him as a pass rusher in nickel, dime, and 4 aces packages. I wonder if that will continue and if he might be good for some pass pressure if employed properly.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Andrew Adams Expects to Start
« on: July 08, 2017, 10:26:03 AM »
Darian Thompson sounded great when Spags was impressed with him last year, but coming off a major injury to one of his wheels, who knows if he will ever fulfill the potential he showed. A big what if, in my opinion.

Adams was a pleasant surprise last year. I don't think you need a great player at that position. With Collins' ability to freelance and make big plays in the short-to-intermediate range,  his free safety needs to be a guy who always stays home, plays the technique exactly, and is deeper than the deepest. Maybe that role suits a player without phenomenal ability well. I would compare it to the dynamic Ryan Clark and Polomalu had with Pittsburgh for many years.
Eli, Snacks (seems to have won a lot of us over very quickly), OBJ & Collins.  I admire JPP a lot as well. 

But not Eli because of the "beatings".   Again, the myth that won't die.  For the regular season NFL stats that are available (the last 8 years) the Giants have averaged 9th best in (fewest) QB hits allowed.

I understand he's been good at getting the ball out early and/or well protected throughout his career, but I still think he's tough. It's like a boxer who is quick and a good defender...over the course of a 15 year career, the punishment still adds up.
Eli and Snacks.
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