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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Eli Manning's PFF grades
« on: Today at 12:27:44 PM »
That 2015 game log should tell you something: that NFC-S and AFC-E don't play defense. 14 of those TD's came against the Saints, Dolphins and the near thrown by the backup Carolina defense.

And they lost 2 of those 3 games. Eli kept the Giants in the game in the shootout against Brees and the Saints and the OBJ meltdown in the Panther's game. The games they lost, the opposition scored an average of 32 points a game. The other teams they faced were middle of the pack or better defenses like the Jets and Pats. I get the point but it doesn't prove Eli had a down year in 2015. He didn't. He had a good year with Rueben Randle as his #2 Receiver, Harris as his 3rd, 3 pathetic rushing TD's and the Larry Donnell and Will Tye act at TE...and a crappy Offensive line.

I never use PFF stats for QB's because unlike their other fine stats, they are not a good barometer of QB value to an Offense. It doesn't take into consideration how the QB reads the field, when he audibles, Receivers who run poor or wrong routes or fail to gain separation or fight for the ball, the effect a poor rushing attack has on the play calling, down and distance and how penalties such as Holding or FS effect down and distance. When a QB throws almost 3-1 TD's to Int's and passes for 4400 yards, he's not having a bad year.

I'll share something else that should be considered. A bad QB would not have won 11 games last year with no rushing attack, crappy TE's worse than the year before, the Tackles taking EZPass and eight of those wins by a margin of less than 4 points. This was not a Trent Dilfer year by any stretch of the imagination. I don't see Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers having more games in the W column with that Offense.

As you know, I'm not an Eli apologist. Eli is Eli. With the proper support he has proven where he can take a team. Some day, his arm will lose it's fastball. There is no evidence to support that day has come yet. He certainly hasn't had a mental regression.     
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Eli Manning's PFF grades
« on: Today at 10:06:09 AM »
Yeah but 2015 was his best or one of his best statistical years. 35 td's, 14 ints and 4400 yards.
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants salary cap situation
« on: June 24, 2017, 02:53:41 PM »
Guys you have to look at the salary cap of 18, 19 and 20. Then look at the dead cap of each player if cut.

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The Front Porch / Re: FTWD Season 3
« on: June 24, 2017, 09:01:09 AM »
Well , Im back to walking my Labrador repiddler around a pretty good side block again. I haven't worn the brace in at least a month. I do wrap my knee tho sometimes. I got something going "pop" right behind the center of my kneecap and sometimes I have a strong "bone on bone" feeling in the knee. I told the doc this at the final .last xray, send the patient down the road appointment back a month and a half ago I guess its been, maybe a month, whatever.
Im thinking that when my foot got caught and I fell that my knee cap moved wuite a bit, stretched a bunch of stuff and then the kneecap returned to the right place. This would explain why there wasn't anything on the xray. My prob is that I don't know if I got something moving around in there or my fibromyalgia is just attacking a traumatized joint. AT 65 , WITH that bitchy little disease could be just attacking the joint.
 so basically I think Im doing well , but shoot, 2 hours of yard work and Im down for the count between the back and the knee.
 Live with it, walk it off. I don't have any real complaints. could be a lot worse.
so hows everything in NJ besides getting really really wet?

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but I go on this site through Tapatalk and Rich killed the link to the Front Porch from Tapatalk because of issues with a slow site.

Lots of rain here and again today. At least we won't have a drought this year. Rain water is better for the plants, Shrubs and Grass anyway because it's highly oxygenated.

Speaking of Oxygen, this is a short book and an easy read. If you are so interested, let me know what you think about H2O2 therapy.

You may want to take a close look at your diet and what you take in. I remember that you drink a lot of Dr. Pepper and the reports about soft drinks are that it's a slow poison. So are processed meats. It's the additives. I'm pretty much on a vegetarian diet and no alcohol period. Gotta watch the protein intake and find other sources to get it. 
Big Blue Huddle / Re: The Tangible Value of NFL Sacks
« on: June 24, 2017, 08:31:46 AM »
Of course Sacks have an effect on the conversation rate. It's still just a small percentage of the amount of stops though. It's a good article but it pushes its point. It doesn't hide the fact that sacks result in a loss of yards. Even on first down it alters the game plan because few teams will run the ball on second and 16-20. Then either try to make the yards up with a split of the yards on the next two downs or pass to pick up ten yards so it's third and six.

Most sacks come on third down because these are often third down situations where it's a clear passing situation. The stats were conspicuously missing on third down in the article. A sack on third down almost always will end a drive. Unless it puts a team in the zone between kicking a FG and going for it on fourth down.

As Philos said there certainly is a psychological effect from sacks. Pressure sometimes results in extending a play because the pressure failed to contain the QB. When the QB can escape it exposes a defense because often the pressure to obtain a sack comes from more than just a four man rush. Especially on third down, five or more Defensive Players are devoted to the Blitz or Dog. Is it's a Blitz, the Secondary is exposed because there is only one Safety out there.

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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants Training Camp Schedule
« on: June 23, 2017, 10:41:04 AM »

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That's rational and reasonable.  Unfortunately, that train left the station long ago. Certain individuals have an axe to grind and Odell is "guilty" no matter what he does. I defy anyone to come up with a scientifically based way to measure "team cohesiveness". It can't be done.  Yet, here we are, reading posts that blame the guy for ruining it by not showing for voluntary OTAs!! It's remarkable to me, that this critical new statistical category, cohesiveness, can even exist in the free agency era! Rational and reasonable? The young man has become the Giants poster boy for "alternative facts". It's gotten so ridiculous that all a fan can do is enjoy the games when Odell performs especially well knowing that he's helping the team AND making a small number of "fans" absolutely miserable by excelling at what he does. The fact that so much attention is being paid to one WR is absurb. Jerry Rice, at his best, was the best there ever was. Yet, he was never as critical to the 49ers success as Montana was. Odell is a special talent, but if anyone expects him to bring home the Lombardi by himself, they are going to be disappointed. I enjoy watching the young man play because his gifts are so rare. But I think we are all painfully aware that if Eli goes down, so do the Giants. Maybe, the critics should keep in mind that even the greatest WR can do very little without an extremely skilled and gifted QB throwing him the ball. Which means, obviously, WR isnt the most critical position on the field.

That's their opinion and they're entitled to voice it. This isn't a debate board although some have this need to get into it back and forth to prove someone wrong.

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The owners can make OTAs mandatory  - if they want to. They just have to offer the players something they want in return. If the owner of the team, who was instrumental in writing the current contract, doesn't believe OTAs are important enough to "the cohesion if the team" to make them mandatory, why should Odell show up? After all, Mara was absolutely aware that OTAs were written into the CBA as voluntary. Why is it, that, in your opinion, the young black player shoulders the responsibility for "team cohesion" by showing up at OTAs, but the old white owner, that isnt paying the players to show up, does not? How do you define team cohesion, how do you know when it has been achieved, and how do you track it so you know if its trending up or down during the season? Which NFL WR do you feel is the League's best at fostering "cohesion of the team"? Is it the sole responsibility of the #1 WR on every team or does the position played vary from team to team?
Patti at the beginning of our podcast made a point I hadn't heard before about the intensity of some workout programs that players do would be in violation of CBA rules and there would be fines. Go to minute mark 3:30 to 5:10 and listen to what she had to say. It's a huge reason for some players not to attend and that alone and in and of itself should more that satisfy any fan.

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The story is still in the first few chapters. I'll withhold judgement and remain optimistic because I see many honorable qualities. He's a better man than I was at his age.

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It was unfortunate I couldn't join them last night.   I started to listen to it, and it's very good.   Pat is a wealth of information as always. :ok:

Next time, Rich. We certainly missed you.

I want to get more of the members here on these podcasts. I'm thinking about doing one a week with one topic to discuss with a group of five including me. We can keep it under an hour. Any suggestions for feature topics that Giants fans would be interested in listening to?

Anyone interested, shoot me a PM.   
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Film Room: 4-3 Over Front & Fire Zone Blitz
« on: June 21, 2017, 07:40:57 AM »
The nice video shows show well coached this Defense is.

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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Film Room: 4-3 Over Front & Fire Zone Blitz
« on: June 21, 2017, 07:33:53 AM »
I agree that I've seen more under fronts by the Giants.

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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Nightmare Formation to defend
« on: June 21, 2017, 07:28:16 AM »
Where is the RB stated in this? What if Ellison is an inline blocker or chipper. I would love to see Eli alone in the backfield a couple of snaps a game.

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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Nightmare Formation to defend
« on: June 21, 2017, 07:21:49 AM »
Actually that is either 10 or 01 personnel

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