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Big Blue Huddle / Most surprising remaining NFL free agents
« on: August 19, 2017, 10:56:58 PM »

Doesn't say much about what some of these guys are asking, but right about now, with camps under way and these guys are sitting at home, maybe a call might make some one swallow some pride and want to play.

I still say I would love to have Mangold on our team. I think he would do wonders for our running game, where Richberg just can't push anyone off the LOS. If the Giants have the money, I would be calling him. Give him some 2 year contract, which would be in line with whatever we are going to do with Eli. We are a win now team, and Mangold would be a tremendous addition at center. He is a leader which is something this unit is sorely lacking.

Are you listening Jerry??
No, there is no "mandatory" drop of officials who are evaluated at the bottom of their position. One of the primary reasons is that the CBA does not permit such a thing although it does spell out criteria for the firing of officials for consistent poor performance. (The NFL is much different from a local HS situation in that regard.) Secondly, there is already incentive enough for the individual officials to want to improve themselves (or to stay at a high level) including the amount of remuneration that they receive for play-off  games, the respect of their peers and their own self-respect. I have yet to meet an NFL official (or high level NCAA official) who does not work hard at his craft virtually year round. In addition, the oversight and performance review program of the officials is probably more thorough and stringent than any similar program I have ever seen. Finally, the NFL works with some of the lower rated officials to improve their game including additional training opportunities while working CFL games. Over the years, I have seen officials improve from the lowest third to the top third (and vice versa) on a yearly basis. A lot is dependent upon the situations they face and the overall coordination of the crew during the course of the season. Finally, the NCAA is not a training ground (i.e., minor league) for NFL officials. I know of no major conference that is interested in entering into an "exchange" program with the NFL where officials would move up and down.

If you would like to contact me via PM with your thoughts of which Referees should be "demoted," I would be glad to respond. But I would suggest that my thoughts and the actual evaluations will probably not coincide with your opinions.         


There was no one in particular that I was thinking about, it was more just a general question about movement of NFL officials. Thanks for a thoughtful answer. :ok: :ok:

Thanks for the great reply. So if I understand this correctly, there is no sort of mandatory drop of lowest rated officials? I understand that they all do a creditable job, but with a sort of mandatory drop, don't you think that might be a good incentive for lower rated officials to try and improve their game? Even in my HS umpiring association, the bottom 10% of varsity officials are dropped to a lower level and the top 10% of the lower level are moved up. Yes it is only HS sports but as a member for almost 40 years, I have seen that incentives like this make a lesser umpire try to better themselves and makes the lower level guys strive to improve their game to the next level.

Again, not that NFL officials are good, but wouldn't a program where the highest level, say, college officials, if they want, make the jump to the NFL while moving referees who are the lowest rated, off the white cap? Just looking for your opinion on that?
Also worth noting this week is that Shaun Hochuli, who presently is the Back Judge on Brad Allen's crew and is the son of Ed Hochuli, will be the Referee on the Colts - Cowboys game. Hochuli was also a Referee in the PAC-12 and is viewed as a prime candidate to move to the white hat position when his dad retires. Four other position officials will get a similar opportunity to audition for the Referee position during the pre-season. 


Do we have referees who are leaving, being demoted, or is the NFL just looking at future candidates WHREN there are openings. Is there some rule, written or not, where the lowest rated referees are demoted and have to turn in their white hats? If not, there should be.
The Front Porch / Re: Old School
« on: August 18, 2017, 01:41:22 PM »

Civil War Veterans

Boy saying goodbye to his Father

Wash Day

Collecting the mail

Guys you really didn't want to know
The Front Porch / Re: Old School
« on: August 18, 2017, 01:34:18 PM »
What the ladies looked like quite a while ago. Could one of these have been an old ex girlfriend of our own Jim? Time frame seems about right   =)) =)) =)) =))

The Front Porch / Re: Old School
« on: August 18, 2017, 01:31:03 PM »
More of guys you might not know what they looked like

General Omar Bradley

Andrew Carnegie

Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes

John D Rockerfeller
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Eli plans to play for 4 more years
« on: August 18, 2017, 01:25:05 PM »
I see it completely differently.  I think if the Giants wanted to go a different direction at QB, I believe Eli would choose to retire.  I think playing his entire career for one team and playing until 36 say going to 37 will trump playing a couple years for another team.  I think he is at peace with his career and where he has taken it.

 You said it perfectly. I completely agree.  :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Big Blue Huddle / Re: August Birthdays
« on: August 18, 2017, 01:22:44 PM »
Yes, yes, yes, hope all the guys have had or will have a very happy birthday.

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Coaches may not criticize poor play as often as they praise good play, but coaches will generally avoid praising players performing poorly

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Even a little praise will go a long way when a player feels he is struggling. AND that will work in any line of work. Players need something to cling on to, not feel they are not being appreciated and not getting their do, even when we see things differently. A good coach knows what buttons to press, when to offer compliments or even faint praises to help a struggling player MAYBE have more confidence in himself and become a better player--if that can be possible with Flowers.

A labor disagreement between the NFLPA and NFL is imminent, according to one executive.
De Smith, the executive director of the NFLPA, told The Monday Morning Quarterback’s Albert Breer that a lockout or strike in 2021 is “almost a virtual certainty.”
“I think that the likelihood of either a strike or a lockout in 2021 is almost a virtual certainty,” Smith told Breer.

BE prepared. Is this just bluster of for real?

Mac more than likely is the person you should believe.  Raanan took only bad plays and showed them to a coach.  How many players would look good to talent evaluators if only their bad plays were shown?

Maybe we don't believe Raanan, but NO coach is going to bad mouth a struggling player. he needs to build up his confidence not tear it down.
I just love a great Flash Mob and this may well be the best

It has been around for a while now, but ALWAYS worth another look.

Beethoven's 'Ode to Joy'
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