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Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2024, 10:44:29 AM"Pushing JJ McCarthy"  Seriously?

This thread posed a question.   There are probably a dozen or so posts on this thread that provide evidence that leads to the conclusion that he is a top-ten prospect.   

As for Daniel Jones, you and other strong critics declared yourselves right because injuries are putting a premature end to his career.  I am not sure what that has to do with the grief you gave people on this thread.

Despite your harsh and extreme claims to the contrary, I am not clueless about QBs.

Ok Rich...

The perfect analogy would be going to Shop-Rite and they were out of Avocados and then tell everyone that Shop-Rite doesn't carry Avocados.

Now after going back five years once a week, and still no Avocados... Then they don't carry Avacados.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2024, 10:24:39 AMThere was nothing extreme about saying JJ was top ten talent.  So there was absolutely no need for you to "provide balance".   As for jumping on contrary opinions, just look how you went after people for saying JJ was top 10.

How many posts have you put up pushing JJ McCarthy, Rich? Dozens and dozens.

I see you even started another Daniel Jones thread defending him.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2024, 10:09:34 AMEd,

You gave the people who recognized that McCarthy was a top-10 prospect a lot of grief.  Instead of acknowledging that maybe the negative comments were misguided, now you are accusing them of "gloating" and taking "victory laps" when they point out that they were proven correct.

It wouldn't hurt to simply acknowledge that some people recognized JJ's talent very early on in the process and that maybe giving them grief for doing so was ill-advised.

Nobody is proven correct Rich. Do I need to repeat myself that it will take years to see who is correct. And again you put me in a position to provide balance here. You've done the same thing with Jones the last five years. Btw, why is it so important for you to be right that you jump on every post contrary to your opinion. Yes, it's an opinion because you're a fan just like everyone else here.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 17, 2024, 09:10:39 AMIn watching it, I think his description of what he sees is actually pretty good but it's the premise that showing a few misreads (even when huge plays occur) shows an inadequacy in a player is odd as a tape of mistakes can be made on every player.

It's the totality that ultimately matters.

Every evaluation podcast does that whether it's pro or con. It's clear the person knows his xxxx, it's just limited to a few plays so it fits his narrative. It's up to the viewer to look into it further or to form an opinion off a body of work. It's good to have both posted in my opinion. Otherwise the site is viewed as slanted. Especially if one member is pushing a narrative incessantly. Thus the high amount of pages.

That's why I limit what I post to mostly what I have observed and my opinion. In the case of JJ McCarthy it's been the limited amount of film, working behind an outstanding Rushing Attack and the lack of pressure he faced, balanced with the fact that he was a winner, he played under a great Coach in a Pro Style offense, has plenty of arm and is mobile. It is clear however even according to Phil Simms, that he will need to be brought along and not start right away. He even said that he doesn't see him as a top ten pick.
No matter where he gets drafted, some here will gloat and take a victory lap. How JJ ultimately performs after a few years will be the true test. Look at Daniel Jones... he's still given a lifeline and supported by a GM who appears to have put his reputation on the line if he passes on a QB in the first two rounds.

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Quote from: Sem on March 16, 2024, 08:26:46 PMIs she in this, or are you thinking of Madam Secretary?

oops!

Wilson is a F/A next season. Fields is also unless they exercise his 5th year option. Why would they.

So which organization is more dysfunctional? It ain't the Giants. Sitting pretty at six.

Now if he can only handle a stunt and a Bull Rush...

Now work on CB.

He did good.

Excellent podcast. I was impressed with Leonard, as an interviewer and his take. As usual I agree with most of what Phil Simms has to say. Like I've said, don't discount Bo Nix. Phil also hit on my point about Jones being a leader on the field. It's been a huge issue.

I do however think that the Giants may be looking at trading up with the Pats for Drake Maye. He has Brian Daboll all over him. I also believe his snafu's are easily correctable and he's perfect for the Northeast weather. I can also see JJ or Bo as a trade up or down.

I see Fields as a backup in Baltimore for Lamar Jackson and I agree it would be a terrible distraction in Philly.

He's dead to me! How dare he!