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#181
Chalk Talk / Day 9 2023 Training Camp
August 05, 2023, 03:45:43 PM
Picture perfect day, slight breeze hardly moving the flags.
#182
As the Giants go into the last day of practice before they head out to Detroit for Joint Sessions and the first pre-season game, I'd like to summarize my take and observations at this point.

Today, I'd like to see them solidify some of these camp battles where possible. Obviously, Schmitz is the starting Center. It's not quite clear yet who the starting Left Guard will be and how that impacts the Right Guard position. Most observations see Bredeson as the second-best Lineman on the team after Andrew Thomas. If Ezeudu can secure that LG spot, then I'd like to see him come out with the first team today and I'd like to see Bredeson at RG. I like the fact that Ezeudu can pull better than any LG the Giants have had since Richie Suebert. I like the pass protection Bredeson gives them and with this team looking to be a much more explosive Passing Offense, that becomes critical. The reason we are seeing all these deep completions and many for TDs is that the QBs have time to throw the deep ball.  Slayton, Waller, Hyatt, and Campbell have been killing the Defense.

That brings me to being happy on the one hand and dismayed on the other. Unless the Defensive Line and Edge pressure players are holding back on the 11-11s, it's concerning that the only real pressure is coming from all these Blitz Packages that Wink Martindale is throwing out there. It also seems by default that Ximinez is the third Pass Rusher and although he flashes in camp, it's a problem since Azeez Ojulari misses games every season and Ximinez shows ugatz in live action.

It could be why Wink is deploying the Blitz out there so much but, I believe he's also doing it because the Giants' Offensive Line struggled in picking it up last season, either by the QB not moving the TE or RB to pick it up or because of a breakdown. They also struggled in double-teaming and picking up Stunts. So, as much as I'd like to see the one-on-one matchups finish up, it should make them more battle ready for the regular season.
It looks like we will see both McFadden and Beavers rotate with the clear Mike-Backer Okereke inside but I think Mikah has the edge. He's come on strong after a poor rookie season.

The woes at Nickle Corner looks to be the winner by default but how do they keep Tre Hawkins off the field if he continues to show game? It doesn't make sense to move Adoree inside and have two rookies on the Corners. This position won't be settled until after the pre-season games. The front runners are Flott and Holmes. Bobby Skinner and Justin Penik mentioned moving up the bigger McCloud and that's an interesting option. I like the Jack of all Trades and he would be solid in Run Defense.

I think the passing game will open up the Run Game and although Barkley won't get as many touches, he could have some breakaways. This is the season for Jones to have the option of reading the Box and Calling Run or Pass.

Cager had a better day yesterday and the fact that Waller is primarily a Receiver and can't block for $#it, I think this becomes a delicate balance of WR and TE. Sweeney has shown ability and so has Myarick but lets call a spade a spade... at 6'5" and 261 the man is not a FB, he's a TE. If Waller gets injured, I'd see him replaced by Hodgins in the Red Zone. After Bellinger, it comes down to the best blockers and I don't think that's Cager.

Safety looks good with McKinney, Pinnock, McCloud and Belton. I'd like to see McKinney in the Box on Cover One.

The Kickoff and Punt Returns look to be Eric Grey. Gillan looks solid hitting the Corner and booming it 60 yards off his foot and Gano is money. The rest of Special teams hasn't been sorted out yet. I don't see the next David Tyree at this point. Besides, Kickoffs can now be "Fair Caught" and the ball gets placed on the 25 according to the new rule.

I have to say that I'm impressed with Daniel Jones and how much better his decision to release has been. He's been deadly accurate, short to long. There is a large void between him and Tyrod Taylor so I'd like to see much less Read Option Plays that expose Jones to injury and limit him to a wide-open A Gap when there's nobody open downfield. As Taylor's contract expires, they need a backup similar to Jones. I don't see Tommy DeVito as that guy.

At Receiver, it looks like Slayton, Hyatt, Campbell, Beasley, Hodgins and Shepard. They kept 7 on the final 53 last year and that one will get replaced by Wan'Dale Robinson when he comes back from PUP. That guy would be among Colin Johnson and David Sills from where I sit. Bryce Ford Wheaton is destined for the Practice Squad unless he suddenly breaks out.

Some concerns? How long does Evan Neal stay in concussion protocol? How did that even happen? Matt Peart had a strong day yesterday before and after Neal went out and that backup RT Position must be decided ASAP.  What's up with Leo Williams who was rested two days in a row and is this a chronic injury that gave Schoen pause in giving him an extension to free up Cap Space? Is his replacement in the 2024 Draft? How will Parris Campbell be affected by this Tendonitis as the season wears on? 
#183
Chalk Talk / Training Camp Day 8
August 04, 2023, 09:26:09 AM
Looks like the rain will hold up.
#184
Chalk Talk / Day 7 Camp Reports
August 03, 2023, 10:07:21 AM
Parris Campbell on the side today.
#185
"Bobby and Justin continue their PPP episodes as they look at rookie center John Michael Schmitz and second year corner Cordale Flott. The guys talk about who these players are, what their strengths and weaknesses are and what they expect their 2023 season to look like."


https://youtu.be/MvQ2avSLU9k
#186
Big Blue Huddle / August Birthdays
August 02, 2023, 07:59:14 AM
RemembersHuff- Kevin- 13th
quacker- Don- 13th
afan56- Bob- 24th
LGiantDave- 5th

Happy Birthday!  <:-P
#188
The Front Porch / NFT: Survivor League
July 29, 2023, 09:59:39 AM
Two strikes and you're out. One pick per week. Deadline is 5 minutes before the start of each week's first game. Password- cavos (small caps)

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/survival/register/joinprivategroup?gid=1971&invitation_key=a05f079b569c40e4
#189
Chalk Talk / Day 3 Camp Report
July 28, 2023, 04:34:52 PM
It's a hot one and far fewer fans. In the meantime we play.
#190
Big Blue Huddle / On line with the Kiddes
July 26, 2023, 07:53:29 AM
Autograph crowd.
#191
Choose up to 5. If other, post it.
#193
I think Jones overtakes Barkley as the number one selling Jersey. After that, Lawrence and Thomas. Then Thibs and Waller.  

What is your dark horse pick? Mine is Hyatt.

If you were in the market to purchase a Jersey, what current player would you pick? Mine would be Lawrence. 
#194
Assuming that Saquon Barkley plays this season and with the addition of Waller, Hyatt and Campbell, along with Robinson and Slayton, the Giants have the makings of a very exciting Offensive Attack. The key to all of this is Daniel Jones.

In his second season with this Offense and Coaches, it's time for him to pick up where he left off at the end of last season. Hopefully he did a lot of film work and study to absorb the next level of plays that Daboll and Kafka gave him.

They are prime for inserting a No Huddle, Spread Offense, where there is motion to create mismatches and for Daniel Jones to recognize them pre-snap. He should also be at the stage to move players pre-snap and to have the freedom to change from Pass to Run and Run to Pass. It's a step up from the Read Options he's been executing.

Knowing when to No-Huddle and when to slow the game up will be Daboll's communication with Kafka and DJ has to be on the same page. They need to dictate the rhythm of the game.

I would expect Routes at three levels and I expect him to recognize how his intended first read works his man at the top of the route.

I expect to see  Barkley much more involved in the passing game along with Grey's development and having a role in this Offense.

I expect to see multiple variations of personnel packages.

Quick decisions, exploiting the Defensive coverage. This is also a tangible asset for the Offensive Line, when the Defense is on their heels. That's why continuity is key and deciding pre-camp who their Dogs are. They know what they've got. Time to move forward and replace the intended starter only if the he fails or is injured. The men they choose need to be able to Zone and Gap Block in combinations and that means they need to know what the man next to them is doing and execute.

This Camp is going to be very interesting.

Your thoughts?
#195
Big Blue Huddle / Albany Get-Together Memories
July 11, 2023, 09:02:20 AM
This was at Rensselaer Park with Harry Carson, the year before he was inducted into the Hall Of Fame.

Anyone else you recognize?
#196
Lots of great fighters mentioned in this article. Some were conspicuously missing, like Jack Dempsey, Sam Langford and Stanley Ketchel.

I can agree with or at least understand the rankings. Some fighters were underrated imo. Like Lenox Lewis and Bob Foster. Too bad Stevenson never fought professionally due to Cuba. Holyfield was a warrior and on any best day had a chance to beat anyone.

https://www.ringtv.com/627200-division-by-division-the-greatest-fighters-of-all-time/
#200
The Front Porch / July Birthdays
July 02, 2023, 09:43:31 AM
GordonG- Gordon- 5th
cruzmissle2- Dale- 9th
Jim143- Jim- 10th
Stugots- chris- 13th
dasher- Dale-13th
Cid in Dupont- Don- 14th
pagan43- Dave- 17th
TDToomer- 18th
TONKA56- Justin- 19th
Jaime- 26th

 <:-P
#201
Big Blue Huddle / Training Camp Battles
June 28, 2023, 04:44:20 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/top-2023-nfl-training-camp-battles-to-watch-49ers-qbs-jets-wrs-among-most-intriguing-competitions/

The most interesting one for me is Anthony Richardson.

As for the Giants, besides the Receivers, it's LG, #2 Corner, #2 RB, Rotational Edge, #2 Safety, #2 ILB and... Backup or Swing Tackle.
#202
Also which will be their biggest gain or loss.

Special Teams
Field Position
Punt Return
Kickoff Return
Kicking Points

Passing Yards
Passing TD's
Rushing yards
Rushing TD's

Receptions Yards-TDs
WR
TE
RB

Pass Protection
Run Blocking

Run Defense
Pass Defense
Interceptions
Sacks

#203
I believe there's an article out there on this.
#205
Who ya gonna call?
#207
The Front Porch / June Birthdays!
June 01, 2023, 08:26:54 AM
TampaGiant- Bobby- 6th
Joeker- 6th
Rambo89- Greg- 7th
Giantfan67- Tom- 8th RIP
Sam56- Sam- 13th. RIP
giantd86- RJ- 20th
#208
Big Blue Huddle / Favorite Current NYG Players?
May 31, 2023, 11:19:55 AM
Shepard
Jones
Barkley

I admire their tenacity and resilience in adversity.

#210
What do you see as the positions of competition this summer? Who are the top competitors? 

The Center position may affect the LG Position if Bredeson has to begin the season at Center. If that's the case the Lemieux and Ezu battle at LG. I don't think either of them would beat out Bredeson at LG.

The backup RB position is in play but will the Giants keep 3 or 4 RBs? There may be a battle for that third spot.

Who is the starting outside Corner opposite Adoree Jackson?

Who is the other Starting Safety with McKinley?

The Rotational DT? Edge?

If the Giants only keep 5 WR's or 3 TE's, who are the ones on the bubble?

Who will be the second Off Ball LBr?

Seems to me that there will be battles for more than half the starting and rotational positions. For a team that made the playoffs last season, is that a high amount? Is it a sign of a team truly in rebuild? I think it's healthy to have so much competition, but eventually the team will need more stability and continuity. Seems like a pivotal season.