Big Blue Huddle

A great article by Tom Rock of Newsday on how the Eagles completely turned around a 4-12 team in just a matter of 4-5 years to a possible Super Bowl contender.

https://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/tom-rock/nfc-championship-game-eagles-giants-h8pj931d?utm_medium=web_share_api&utm_campaign=web_share_api

One thing that stood out to me is

The answer lies in general manager Howie Roseman, voted this season's Executive of the Year by the Pro Football Writers of America.

It wasn't making all the right decisions that led him to that lofty honor for the second time in his career (he's the fourth GM to win it multiple times, and two of the others, Bill Polian and George Young, are in the Hall of Fame). It was his willingness to abandon bad decisions before they became worse.

When things began to sour with Doug Pederson as the head coach, it was Roseman who axed him and hired Nick Sirianni as a replacement.

When it seemed as if the Eagles had a franchise quarterback in Carson Wentz, it was Roseman who drafted Jalen Hurts and then traded Wentz away.

After Roseman drafted a series of disappointing receivers in Nelson Agholor, J.J. Arcega-Whiteside and Jalen Reagor, he cut ties with them and then traded up to select DeVonta Smith in 2021 (leapfrogging the Giants to do so, much to their chagrin). Before this season, he acquired A.J. Brown from the Titans.

Having locked up the stars of his 2018 draft class with long-term deals (Jordan Mailata, Dallas Goedert, Josh Sweat and Avonte Maddox among them) and keeping Cox on the team, Roseman was able to bolster the roster with free agents Haason Reddick, Kyzir White and Giants salary-cap casualty James Bradberry. Roseman traded for Brown and C.J. Gardner-Johnson.

The result? An NFC Championship Game appearance, a franchise-record 14 wins in the regular season and the deepest and most well-rounded team in the NFL, with an astounding 17 players earning Pro Bowl or Pro Bowl alternate status.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-world-reacts-to-major-new-york-giants-news/ar-AA16QyGc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=39e8154d53d54cc8a401a8816f67ba35


The Giants could pay Jones roughly $40 million a year, according to Robert Vacchiano of Fox Sports. The Giants' leadership team recently confirmed their commitment to Jones.

"We feel like Daniel played well this season," Schoen said after the season, according to Fox. "He's done everything we've asked him to do. There's a business side to it. We haven't gone down that road yet. But we would like to have DJ back."

Personally, I think this is way too much, but I would assume they just don't want to start over again with an unknown.

Leonard Williams has already restructured a couple of times, but he is due to make something like 32 million next year.

Here is Patti's Take on it

https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/big-blue-plus/leonard-williams-open-to-accepting-a-restructure

His best days are behind him
Still injury prone
A massive cap hit
Production has slipped dramatically

In my opinion, unless he  takes a massive cut, his Giants days are be hind him

https://newarena.com/nfl/ranking-the-25-greatest-wide-receivers-in-nfl-history/?amxt=2022_dt_cntnt9_3&utm_campaign=tb_zs_bestrec_4_chr_dt&utm_source=tb_ae&utm_term=msn-anaheim-us&utm_content=78141&tbclid=GiCSqXDuA7t_fZi4d3eZGdLvaV-CnM_rPSi2l9JrE5vAmiCO9Uso5uHm3oGcvoCzAQ&cost=PwGn2R3We5iSwAYC7gi2ObOv6l8IGNaid5HsH1tsu1g=&utm_medium=tbdt-2022_dt_cntnt9_3

These lists are always subjective but it got me thinking that in all the years the Giants have been around, we really have never had what one would call a great WR.
Sure we had Homer Jones, Armani Toomer, and a brief OBJ but we probably have had a HOF at most other positions but never even close at WR.
Maybe it's about time we did.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bills-rb-mentioned-as-possible-saquon-barkley-replacement-for-giants/ar-AA16OPQv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=04145760311241a5c18455b0cadb6ca3

New York Giants general manager Joe Schoen could look to a familiar face as a replacement for running back Saquon Barkley come March

For a piece published on Friday, Bob Brookover of NJ Advance Media for NJ.com linked the Giants with Buffalo Bills ball carrier Devin Singletary. Schoen served as Bills assistant general manager when Singletary enjoyed his best rushing season, to date, playing under current New York head coach and former Buffalo offensive coordinator Brian Daboll.

Singletary and Barkley, both 25, possess different physical traits, and Barkley is the more explosive home-run hitter of the two options. As with many things in life and football, Schoen's decision could come down to money.

Has Ezekiel Elliott carried the ball for the last time with Dallas?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/2023-dallas-cowboys-offseason-full-list-of-players-set-to-hit-free-agency/ar-AA16EnxR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=353947b88ec44e4a81a9a326a21672f8
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ezekiel-elliott-makes-feelings-about-his-cowboys-future-clear/ar-AA16FwIP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2f0038e0f703405dae9ec68a03fc3f1a

He is due a huge salary next year and his production is way down. Pollard is a FA and Dallas may need that money due Elliot to paying Pollard.

Plus Dallas may also be in cap hell as they have a very long list of players hitting the FA market

Should we get out the crying towels now or wait.             

Pretty good article on 3 of our current Giants who more than likely won't be back and possible replacements

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/3-giants-who-won-t-be-back-next-year-and-best-options-to-replace-them/ar-AA16CVBP?cvid=e79d70e1f0b54867a95f7b519963d949

 I know we had discussed this a while back but this news has just appeared and maybe the discussion should be renewed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/alec-baldwin-to-be-charged-with-manslaughter-in-fatal-shooting-on-the-set-of-rust-da-says/ar-AA16wnMu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2a1341dc4dc4433cb1211c27bd2d3148

 Myself, and most of us, are not privy to all the facts, but I believe that Baldwin should not be guilty of anything IF what they say, that he was just handed a gun, as a prop, and never even assumed it could be more than a prop, how can he be charged with manslaughter?

If Dallas wins tonite then the NFC East will have 3 teams playing in the divisional round and 3 out of the remaining 8 teams are from the East.

We are now the Black and Blue division

Beasts of the East.

I have gone back and read thru threads from the past couple of weeks and you know what not ONE thread on our 'new' offensive line. So who are these guys? Not the same group that everyone has been ragging on for who knows how long? They can't be--CAN THEY? Has the proverbial 'lightbulb' gone on and they, all of a sudden open holes for Barkley, giving Jones time to scan the field and seem to play with a new found confidence?

Are we to rethink some of our priorities for next year, in the draft especially? When everyone and I do mean everyone says we need to bring in more guys (and I still agree with this), but these, much-maligned guys have come up a bit when we needed them to.

That's what good coaching can do--#2.

If Dallas losses I would think Giants/Eagles would be the game of the weekend and get a prime Sunday night position. If Dallas wins they play SF and that would get the prime spot with us probably playing Sat.

Just speculation of course.

What a terrific group of coaches can do to a team. Really hats off to coach Daboll for his daringness (if that is a word). He inspires this team/ Another tip of the cap to Wink and Kafka for inspiring playcalling that fits right into every different situation.

I am truly amazed at the reformation of this team. We have gone from a run-orientated team with everything on Barkley to a pass-first team with emerging WRs and Jones looking like a top-tier QB. That all goes back to our coaching staff.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-releases-its-10-highest-selling-player-jerseys-of-2022-season/ar-AA16k3vm?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=dcd3f94f6bc748e484effb52afa5b1bc

#!0--Brady
#9--Fields
#8--Hurts
#7--Jefferson
#6--Prescott
#5--Lamb
#4--Burrow
#3--Mahomes
#2--Parsons

And the #1 selling Jersey  (drumroll)

#1--Allen

Hi guys. I was able to access some WiFi to check out responces to the game and just wanted to say hi.
We will be heading back soon and be home Friday. Weather has been great averaging about 82 with an always tropical breeze. No tan for me though as I stay out of the sun.
Looked in on Wordle and saw some really unique words.  Looking forward to joining the action again. My brain needs a workout after this.
Talk to you all on Friday.

Going thru my head as I watched today's game.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this new regime we have but I also remember Ben Mcadoo getting us to the playoffs his first year and people were thrilled with him.....................

I also remember a GM by the name of Jerry Reese who had a terrific draft his first year that helped us win a SB............

Before we anoint some of our staff into the Ring Of Honor, and yes we are on the right track, let's see what happens in the next couple of years.

I also mentioned to friends this week that this was the game for Daniel Jones to prove his mettle. This was the game that players yearn for. a chance to step up and win a game to get their team into the playoffs and Jones did just that. Maybe his best game as a pro. He stepped up big time and earned a new contract here.

Well here is something I never knew, seems our beleaguered SNF announcer Chris Collingsworth owns PFF.

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/sports-news/cris-collinsworths-pro-football-focus-just-got-an-investment-valuing-it-at-nine-figures/

So are some of PFFs ratings used to bolster SNF games.

Is this an omen for the Giants?

We have beaten every AFC team we have played this season

Ravens
Titans
Jax
Texans

and we have beaten the 3 other teams in the AFC South.

I know, I know, but when we want to look for positives, here are some.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/breaking-pele-dead-aged-82-reports/ar-AA15MD53

 Maybe the greatest soccer player ever has passed away at the age of 82 from colon cancer.

I still remember when he came to play for the NY Cosmos and filled the Stadium every game.

Truly a legend.

May he RIP

Interesting list, with some names I would not have expected. BUT, a QB may have been a complete flop with one team, moved on, and had great success with another.

Check out the list and explanations for each selection.

https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/worst-nfl-quarterbacks-by-team-c1c2af5b4c104488

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j-j-watt-announces-retirement-after-2022-season-nfl-community-celebrates-legacy-of-perennial-all-pro/

On Tuesday, Arizona Cardinals defensive end J.J. Watt essentially announced his retirement after the 2022 season. The Houston Texans drafted Watt with the No. 11 pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, and he spent 10 years with the team before joining the Cardinals in 2021.

The three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year posted a photo with his wife and his son, Koa, on social media that read, "Koa's first ever NFL game. My last ever NFL home game. My heart is filled with nothing but love and gratitude. It's been an absolute honor and a pleasure. 🙏"

What a great player for so many years. The dominant defensive player for many of those years. Age and injuries took their toll.

I wish him t he best.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-announces-week-17-flex-game-to-sunday-night-football/ar-AA15FbPl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d7b22e2c81ab4ea99bf07656fd87dab9

 No it's not us, but  the Ravens/Steelers that have  been flexed into t he SNF spot in place of Rams/Chargers

Did you ever have a premonition about something, not act/or did act and that premonition come true?

I just read this about the all-time great boxer, Sugar Ray Robinson who was to have a fight against an opponent and had a dream that he knocked him out and killed him. It bothered him to no extent that he had to consult with a priest about it and was encouraged to continue with the fight.

Robinson, in fact, did fight, knocked out his opponent and that man did succumb to his injuries.

http://wafflesatnoon.com/sugar-ray-robinson-dream/

James Harrison

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/11/health/james-harrison-blood-donor-retires-trnd/index.html

He donated blood every week for 60 years and saved the lives of 2.4 million babies

We really need to hear more stories like this.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/giants-vikings-kudos-wet-willies-plenty-of-good-and-bad-vs-vikings/ar-AA15DWt0?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3fd58fa8780e4ca1b86e504424277039


 Kind of agree with everything.

I can't believe it. We played a game and lost, and not one Daniel Jones thread--good or bad has been posted.

So, for that reason, I had to do it.

Most know my opinion of Jones, but I will come out and say he surely wasn't the reason we lost and should have been the reason we won.
I have been saying all season, I want him to show he can take the ball with the game on the line and win it for us. If not for another 60+ yard FG (why do these things keep happening to us). He should have been the hero.
Again, what I have been on him for were the continual 3-5 yard passes, but he opened up yesterday and threw several of those mid-range passes that teams need to execute.

Good game Daniel.

 I know it's Christmas, but looking at the NFL schedule for today, in reality, they couldn't have come up with these bad games if they tried.

I know, I know, when they made up the schedule, these games looked attractive, but now each one is really a dog.
Yesterday you had a plethora of good games opposite each other, couldn't they have flexed one or two into today, just to give us something decent to watch?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-world-reacts-to-terrifying-report-involving-giants-players/ar-AA15DqrH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c137dd0dd00c4f5aa2895b12aa9f13cd


According to multiple reports, there were several Giants players at the Mall of America when a deadly shooting occurred. None of the Giants players were harmed, but tragically a 19-year-old was killed.

"I'm told many Giants players were inside the mall, which went on a lockdown for about an hour," NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero said. "So was general manager Joe Schoen, who was getting position-by-position updates until they confirmed that everyone was OK."

Pat Hanlon, the team's executive vice president of communications, told the Associated Press, "Everyone is back in the hotel and accounted for now."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/breaking-nfl-game-has-been-delayed/ar-AA15Dto1?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=34a0ac612b364226bef1569fe2bec757


 Not that this really matters to many but the Tenn Titans/Texans game is being pushed back one hour to a 2 PM start.

Some one just sent me this and I am rolling down memory lane.

see how many you remember

https://youtu.be/6L8LjQRk9w4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/daniel-snyder-gets-huge-offers-for-washington-commanders/ar-AA15Agzn?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=a7651ce150af41eaafcbd3f8ddd607b1

Seems Daniel Snyder wants to sell the Commanders he put a price so high that he figured no one would bite and he could still stay in control, but it has been reported that some one had made him an offer even higher than what he asked.

hey believed that Snyder had set his reported asking price so high, $7 billion, that he could later stand down and refuse to sell, saying he'd not gotten the price he wanted. That would then force a vote by NFL team owners to make him sell the team.

That theory got shot down after a report Thursday by Forbes.com that Snyder has received offers "well north" of $7 billion for the team. The report did not specify which parties had made offers. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos is presumably one of the interested bidders, as he's been viewed as the favorite to buy the team, possibly in a partnership with rapper Jay Z, among others.