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Len: One of you (you and Rich) is right. Either way, I think it will be ok. 

The Giants can't afford to continue paying first-round money to someone who's under-performing, so this year will be the last of him if he's unworthy. On the other hand, they aren't asking much of him, just to be better than last year, which is easily achievable, and if they keep him, it will be for average or below-average LT money, money which can be used for other purposes.

The worst outcome would be if he proves to be the SOLE reason for the team failing to go deep into the playoffs, which would be a cryin' shame for everyone concerned, especially us fans.  Do you think there is a high probability he will prove to be the SOLE reason (or CHIEF reason) for the team to flop?  I certainly do not.

Bob

"Sole" reason is a little strong Bob. But last year, Eli could barely run the offense because of the constant hurries, hits and sacks. There is a reason why left tackles get paid the most on the OL.


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Big Blue Huddle / Re: JT Thomas takes sizable pay cut to stay with Giants
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 05:55:23 PM »
I sure hope we don't keep this bum Thomas in lieu of Munson and making the roster? ~X(
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: August Birthdays
« Last post by Cid in Dupont on Today at 04:38:56 PM »
Happy Birthday fellow BBH'ers!!!

Cid
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Agreed Todge, Bama, if JT turns out to be anywhere near as good as Kiwi was then we should keep him.  We need LB/DE depth, while it may look like we're really deep, IMHO I don't think so.  After the top tier of our starters/rotational LBs, it is a pretty big fall...it's only going to take 1 big injury & we'll be facing that fall.

Cid
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Pat Traina's Thursday Practice Report
« Last post by MightyGiants on Today at 04:08:27 PM »
I haven't seen anything about what if any progress Hart is making.

Gordon,

What I observed myself, I would say his has made significant progress.   Everyone in the media who's opinions are worth while listening to seem to feel the same way.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Eli plans to play for 4 more years
« Last post by 4thand17 on Today at 04:07:15 PM »
How many qbs with a poorous OL, no running game, and no tight end played at a high level last year? Of course he can play better, but significantly sounds like you want him gone . And can we please stop referencing tom bradys pay cut? Not one other qb ever took a cut.

Stafford, luck, rivers, brees, ben, ryan, palmer, flacco all took massive deals when presented. Carr just signed one. So did cam. Its wonderful tgat brady did it.... but he is the exception not the rule.

As I understand it ,Brady will recieve the same amount of money (not to mention his wife makes 40mil.) He just gets it in a different manner.  Also they funnel money to Brady by supporting his business ventures.  He's losing no money.  If th Giants do the same for
Eli, I'm sure he'll accept.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Pat Traina's Thursday Practice Report
« Last post by GordonG on Today at 04:05:32 PM »
I haven't seen anything about what if any progress Hart is making.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: JT Thomas takes sizable pay cut to stay with Giants
« Last post by todge on Today at 03:24:59 PM »
We love to beat on Kiwanuka or how he was used, but he still wound up playing 9 years with the Giants and finished in the top ten in career sacks (9th) and forced fumbles (4th), despite barely sneaking into the top 50 for games played for Defensive Players. I think Kiwi, Tuck, and Umenyiora lived in Strahan's shadow at times and we forget how good they really were.

Thank you for posting this bama. I get all riled up when fans refer to Kiwi as if he were this huge bust.


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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Pat Traina's Thursday Practice Report
« Last post by gregf on Today at 02:48:35 PM »
end Rhett Ellison moved around to help with double team blocks. Ellison and Ereck Flowers formed a massive human wall that stopped Olivier Vernon from 

I love this quote

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I'm sorry, but I disagree. Even a little praise will go a long way when a player feels he is struggling. AND that will work in any line of work. Players need something to cling on to, not feel they are not being appreciated and not getting their do, even when we see things differently. A good coach knows what buttons to press, when to offer compliments or even faint praises to help a struggling player MAYBE have more confidence in himself and become a better player--if that can be possible with Flowers.

Len: One of you (you and Rich) is right. Either way, I think it will be ok. 

The Giants can't afford to continue paying first-round money to someone who's under-performing, so this year will be the last of him if he's unworthy. On the other hand, they aren't asking much of him, just to be better than last year, which is easily achievable, and if they keep him, it will be for average or below-average LT money, money which can be used for other purposes.

The worst outcome would be if he proves to be the SOLE reason for the team failing to go deep into the playoffs, which would be a cryin' shame for everyone concerned, especially us fans.  Do you think there is a high probability he will prove to be the SOLE reason (or CHIEF reason) for the team to flop?  I certainly do not.

Bob
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