Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 07:35:17 PMMy bad Howell was a 5th round pick not a 4th rd pick. Davis mills was a 3rd rd pick. Still the point remains that those guys coming in and putting up equal or better production on eqally bad teams is alarming. 

Still, every year???

Quote from: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 02:31:39 PMThe Pats will be in a Bryce Young situation if they take a QB. Whoever he is, he will get battered. They have nothing.

Kind of like the Giants.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:00:58 PMPatriots just announced they were open for buisness at pick 3. If that is true then one of the top 4 likely falls in our lap.

How so?  That Pats are widely expected to pick a QB.  If they trade down, their trade partner will be widely expected to pick a QB.  How does that change the likelihood that one of the top 4 falls in our lap?

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:14:27 PMIt shouldn't though because as much as people try to act like Jones was magnificent in 2022, he wasn't the 3200 yards and 15 tds show that. So if he duplicates 2022 then in my eyes it's even more obvious we need a change. A 6th year Qb that can't throw for 4,000 yards when 4th rd picks come into this league every year and do it with less talent should be alarming.

If that's the case we should definitely trade down, although I don't know who you're talking about. 

In 2023 3 QBs were taken in the 4th round.  Only one played and he threw for 2200 yards.
In 2022 1 QB was taken in the 4th round and in 2 seasons threw for 2000 yards combined.
In 2021 1 QB was taken in the 4th round and he has 135 career passing yards.

Did I misunderstand your statement?  Hyperbole?  Color me confused.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 01:03:58 PMhttps://x.com/bigblueview/status/1780995838489034886

Does that mean that from the Giants' perspective next year's draft will be loaded?

Quote from: Bill Brown on April 18, 2024, 05:50:07 AMCC will make millions in endorsement deals. Let's not cry too much that the WNBA salary is not massive. If the league starts to make money those salaries will also go up.

Bill

But even if she makes it to the top of the WNBA, what's the most she can hope to make, half a million?  Which is twice what the top players make now?

But you're right that nothing changes until (unless) the league starts to make money.  But there is no sign that's going to happen.

Assuming Ice Cube was serious, she had a one time chance to secure her financial future and turned it down.  I hope for her sake she made the the right decision.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 18, 2024, 09:17:17 AMHow is a strong running game not included?

I could be wrong, but a strong running game is indicative of a(n at least) competent OL which I imagine would carry over to competent pass protection.  Are there teams that have a strong running game that have serious pass protection problems?  I don't know the answer.

Quote from: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 05:12:41 AMThat's a reason not to do it. Okay?

No.  But it's a reason to reign in faith that because the team does their due diligence and loves a guy he will end up being 'the guy'. 

I don't come here often but I may change that.  I thought in the past that there was a thread like this but I went back 5 pages and couldn't find it so either it didn't exist or it's time for a new one.

H. L. Mencken Quote: It is the classic fallacy of our time that a moron run through a university and decorated with a Ph.D. will thereby cease to be a moron.

Carl Jung Quote: The shoe that fits one person pinches another; there is no recipe for living that suits all cases. (or, as I like to put it, it's not a one-size fits all world)

Bertrand Russell Quote: Even if all the experts agree, they may well be mistaken.

I'll try to come back and add some more, but feel free to pitch in your own favorites.  I'll finish with one that based on my own life I profoundly disagree with:

Jewish Proverb - Love is a sweet dream, and marriage is the alarm clock.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 17, 2024, 08:59:40 AMConsidering how much of a non-factor Waller was last season, I am perfectly fine with his retirement.  The Giants can draft another TE and use the freed-up salary cap (about $6 million) to sign a veteran CB (or other position of need depending on how the draft shakes out)

Bertrand Russell: Nothing is so exhausting as indecision, and nothing is so futile.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 17, 2024, 08:45:22 PMYes, if they've done their homework and love the QB they're taking, and it's not just out of desperation at the position and trying to save their jobs.

No, if it's the above.

Every highly drafted QB that turned out to be a bust had a team that did their homework and loved him.  Just sayin'. 

QuoteHow much is Caitlin Clark going to make in the WNBA?
Clark, this year's No. 1 draft pick in the WNBA, will have a starting salary of $76,535 and earn roughly $338,000 over the four-year contract she signed with the Fever.

She should have taken Ice Cube's 5 million.  The highest paid WNBA players make about $250,000 per year.  She'll never make up the difference.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 17, 2024, 01:21:04 PMIf you read the long ESPN article (the link is in my Bill Belichick post from today) it seems a big part of the reason Belichick didn't get another HC job is that the league is moving away from the powerful head coach model (yet the two SB teams are both teams with powerful HCs)

One thing I have noticed since Bowen replaced Martindale as the new DC is that both Daboll and Henderson talked about Bowen being a good teammate.  This tracks with the Giant's accusations that Martindale didn't seek out input from his entire staff but only his trusted lieutenants.

These two things got me thinking.  Which model is the more successful one?   Are teams better off with a management style that is all about collaborations and agreement (sort of management by committee) or are teams better served with one or two powerful voices in the room?

My take is that the collaborative approach is sort of like buying many different types of stocks (diversify your portfolio) to protect from downturns.  The shortcoming to that approach is you tend to mute the upside a bit for the same reason you are protecting your downside.

In other words, if you get the right one or two voices, a team will enjoy higher highs (and risk lower lows) than if they adopt the collaborative approach, which serves as a moderating influence for both good and bad.

I am curious what others think.

Too much collaboration and you get a horse, designed by committee, that looks like a rhinoceros.  The Giants' SBs have come when they've had strong leaders. 

Quote from: uconnjack8 on April 17, 2024, 03:24:02 PMFrom what I have seen most have Nabers graded higher.  However, it doesn't look like he is graded significantly higher, so if there is any truth to those rumors or doubt about mental fit, I would go with the lower rated prospect. 

And bear in mind these rankings and ratings have very little precision to them.  My way of looking at it is if the grades are close they are essentially equal.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 17, 2024, 06:30:22 PMAnyone know what Nabers hand size is?  OBJ was only 5'11" but played X well because he could leap and had 10" hands which are very large for a person his size who could really snatch the ball.

Reported to be 9-7/8".