Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 24, 2024, 09:15:48 PMWeird seeing Mccarthy say when asked where he thought he'd go, he said he had an idea, that he'd spent the most time with New York. I've never heard a Qb say a team like that before I don't think.

Thanks for posting that.  Hadn't seen it.

After 39 votes roughly 61% QB vs 39% WR with Maye having more than 3:1 ratio of votes over McCarthy.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 24, 2024, 07:22:56 PMI voted for Maye. He would be my personal preference although I'll be the first to admit I've been wrong plenty of times about judging which college QBs will be good in the pros. So if we end up with McCarthy I will be fine with that too, as I will choose to assume our front office and head coach both have a very high opinion of him and his potential. And I would expect them to feel the same way about Maye if that's who we end up with. And if we end up with someone who plays a different position, I'll be ok with that too. The last thing I want us to do is draft a QB we are not passionate about just to tick a box.

I am with you.  Once this draft ends, I will be 100% behind whomever they pick and I won't doubt the pick.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 24, 2024, 06:55:11 PMHonestly if we do go wr I want a guy that is going to go up and fight, be a monster, and catch everything. That just seems more Odunze than Nabers.

He seems like AJ Brown if Brown was a true X.

Yeah I agree with you.  A no doubt the ball is mine guy.

I am surprised Odunze is leading Nabers.  Wonder if it is:

1. Nabers size vs Odunze's size for X

2. Odunze considered A+ character

3. Is Nabers really more of a slot/z?

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 24, 2024, 06:24:30 PMGoing forward I expect about 85% of the Qbs will have at least been to 2 schools by the time they enter the draft.

The only ones that won't will lijely be Qbs that earn the job early in college so stay at the same school or a high school phenom.

I believe it will be a good test in their character.  Ewers did not want to compete against Stroud.  Never even tried.

Love everyone's feedback.  This is great.  I voted for JJ.  Am surprised at all the Maye love especially versus the WRs however we really need a QB as well.

So far 9-7 on QB vs WR.  Interesting. 

I hope everyone here votes as it would be very interesting to see everyone's thoughts.

Thanks for your thoughts.  I am kost interested in seeing the voting between QB vs WR.  How interested is this board in these QBs versus these WRs?

I am curious how this board is leaning 24 hours before draft.

No surprises this year Ceri.  Rare.

If we get BPA at QB, WR, RB, G, CB and S, that would satisfy my desire.  Maybe sub out one for 3 tech DT. 

Quote from: kingm56 on April 24, 2024, 09:37:17 AMYeah, Jess is right more than he's wrong and has been accurate with most of his analysis over the last few years.  However, on this rare occasion, I disagree with him.  To date, Neil has demonstrated poor twitch and lateral speed, which are areas that don't improve with time.  I believe there's a real possibility he moves to Guard in an effort to minimize the aforementioned shortcomings. He will always be a liability against speed edge rushers.   

You and Jess are two of my favorite posters here.  Neal simply does not get to the ideal spot to block a player at the most optimal time.  I am not sure if it is lateral quickness or slow processing once the snap is made but that part of his game has not improved and I don't think it can.  He may be better off as you noted to be inside in a more confined space.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 24, 2024, 09:09:46 AMJoe,

In fairness, there is a goldmine of great information available via Podcasts.  You just need to know the ones worth listening to. 

Here are some of the ones I like to listen to:

Ones involving former NFL

GM Shuffle with former GM Mike Lombardi
Russ Tucker Football Podcast with former player Ross Tucker
The Athletic's Football Podcast with former GM Randy Mueller
Simms Complete with Phil Simms and his son Matt
Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks
Bleav in Giants with Carl Banks

Podcasts of Giants Beat Writers

Locked on Giants with Pat Traina
Blue Rush with Paul Schwartz
Breaking Big Blue with Jordan Raanan
All In with Art Stapleton
Talking Ball with Pat Leonard
Giants Insider with Chris Biz

Podcast of mega Giants fans (fans that know the Xs and Os)

Talkin Giants with Bobby Skinner and Jason Pennick
Big Blue Banter Podcast with Nick and Dan

Thanks Rich for the list.  I know for example that the podcast by the Freakonomics guys is very good.  My problem is that I just simply can't hear a monologue for so long especially when the hosts "insert" their personality into the conversation in the hope of making it more colorful.

My father had a great quote which he seared into his us which was "you have one mouth and two ears and you should use them in that proportion."

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 24, 2024, 08:54:58 AMI remember hearing HOF GM Bill Polian talk about how they developed an injury grade where various injuries were given scores and all those injuries (during their career before being drafted) were added up to develop a score.   Joe Schoen's rather detailed answer on this issue suggests Ronnie Barnes and his crew take a very different approach.


Q. Has Michael Penix Jr. acquitted all concerns or possible concerns about his injury history in your mind? Then kind of a follow-up to that would be are you more reticent sent now than maybe a year ago to take a chance on a guy who has an injury history, or is it the same as it ever was?

JOE SCHOEN: I think we always take that into account. We have to listen to our medical professionals. We've unfortunately had some issues with injuries the last couple years since I've been here. You want to stray away from injury risks the best you can. I am not going to get into specifics on Michael, it's well documented the injuries he had while he was at Indiana, but he has been healthy at Washington and played two full seasons there.

A lot of times those are indicators. Even if it's not — again, we'll go back to John Smith. He had an ACL his sophomore year, but it hasn't swelled up and he hasn't missed any games or had to aspirate it or anything like that. You usually lean on how the patient responds to those surgeries and how they perform.

We had our medical meeting Monday night. We didn't lose too many people. That's always a scary meeting for us because which one of these players that we love are going to be disqualified because of medical or they advise that we don't take them. We didn't lose a lot of players this year luckily.

My concern is not swelling this soon after his surgery but say a bit further out.  That is when the effects of being injured may rear their ugly head.