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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Eli Manning's PFF grades
« Last post by tucker115 on Today at 02:25:32 AM »
Rich, it's another resource for evaluating a team and it's one of the top two along with Football Outsiders. Some fans don't like overkill with stats and some like the analytical aspect of the game. What some people need to understand is that you take a lot of your own personal time and effort to post topics for conversation and without those posts at this time of the year there would not be much to talk about. There are a lot of members who post topics and contribute to the site. A few just see the need to criticize you for posts like this as if you have ownership to the content. Thank you for your efforts and please keep up the good work as many of us appreciate it.

Besides agreeing with every word Ed wrote above, let's also point out that Rich, imo, is 99% of the time, extremely honest and forthcoming in describing the thread's topic matter. Rich does not go down the path of "any hit is a good hit" and title his posts with something deliberately inflammatory like "Eli sucks!" just to generate reactions. We have debated PFF's value, or lack thereof, ad nauseum here, many times before. There are those that enjoy it and those that do not. It's a choice and everyone here is entitled to decide for themselves where they fall on the PFF spectrum. But, if it turns out that PFF is not your thing, then, perhaps, you would be happier if you skipped threads that have PFF in their title. Certainty, we do not need yet another debate on PFF's value. They go nowhere. Some people like it. Many accept it as a flawed, but interesting, measuring stick. Some hate it. What cannot be denied is it's ubiquitous influence on fans and the media. Thus, whether you like it, hate it, or fall somewhere in-between, we all should realize that it will be an occasional topic here and its entirely appropriate - and generous - for Rich to post PFF numbers that focus on Giants players/games for those that are interested that he has paid for out of his own pocket.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants in the NFL's top 100 players
« Last post by tucker115 on Today at 01:59:28 AM »
....hopefully that will motivate Eli even more this year to show and punish them all

Obviously, I do not know the man, but Eli does not strike me as the kind of guy that takes lists seriously at all. Let's remember, Ernie's own scouting report on Eli, before the draft, brought up many of the negatives we still see in Eli today and Ernie loved Eli! So, Eli must be used to the doubters by now. And if the list does bum Eli out, I'm guessing a quick peek at the bank account makes him feel considerably better.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: NFT - Phil Jackson Out As Knicks Chief
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 12:53:50 AM »
I thought it was very odd when Jackson was hired. He'd been a winning coach that always had the benefit of tremendous Talent around him, so he won. But I got to Wonder, would  a competent coach with the same amount of talent be able to accomplish the same amount of winning?
So Dolan hires a coach with zero management experience. Why would you do that? And it's not like Jackson is in his prime, he's a broken down old man. Furthermore, why was a neophyte executive put in a position to make such disasterous Personnel decisions? Giving Melo a no-trade clause. I've yet to see a no-trade clause that benefits the franchise. I mean, look what Slats did to the Rangers with no trade clauses.

As for Jackson's replacement? what's the big deal? There's a GM and an assistant GM that are still on board. Can't they handle Jackson's job description? I mean, you're only handling a dozen players, there's not a lot of moving parts.  :-??
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants in the NFL's top 100 players
« Last post by state_property on Today at 12:02:04 AM »
As good as Ezekiel Elliot was this year, ranking him in the top 10...and then above OBJ is disrespectful in the greatest way.  OBJ has been setting NFL records since he came into the NFL and Elliott has one good year and its enough to trump OBJ?  What records did Elliott set? Even behind arguably the best OL in football. 

I don't mind putting rookies on the top 100...but if they get into the top 10, they would have to set NFL records as a rookie...otherwise you are dismissing the accomplishments of other players who have been playing just as well...but longer.

IMHO...
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: NGT - Another Cowboy Suspended
« Last post by state_property on June 28, 2017, 11:56:31 PM »
DE David Irving has been suspended for 4 games for violation of the PED abuse policy.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/5/23/15680874/cowboys-defense-suspension-david-irving?yptr=yahoo

He now joins Randy Gregory and Demarcus Lawrence on the suspension list.

Gregory gets one more and he will be gone from the NFL.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants in the NFL's top 100 players
« Last post by XNYrnLA on June 28, 2017, 10:01:55 PM »
I guess being one of the best all-around DEs in the league can't make a top 100 player with Vernon. JPP I could understand coming back from his injury and was out some games. But last but not least is the continued disrespect Eli gets is unforgivable. I believe I saw that Dax was number 40?!! Words cannot express of what I think of this yearly embarrassment.

BTW, this is not a criticism of Dax who had a great year and looks like he has a bright future, but c'mon man.
....hopefully that will motivate Eli even more this year to show and punish them all
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants in the NFL's top 100 players
« Last post by bighitterdalama on June 28, 2017, 09:51:52 PM »
I guess being one of the best all-around DEs in the league can't make a top 100 player with Vernon. JPP I could understand coming back from his injury and was out some games. But last but not least is the continued disrespect Eli gets is unforgivable. I believe I saw that Dax was number 40?!! Words cannot express of what I think of this yearly embarrassment.

BTW, this is not a criticism of Dax who had a great year and looks like he has a bright future, but c'mon man.

Actually, beau, Dak was #14, not #40. Ridiculous.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Giants in the NFL's top 100 players
« Last post by beaugestus on June 28, 2017, 08:13:23 PM »
I guess being one of the best all-around DEs in the league can't make a top 100 player with Vernon. JPP I could understand coming back from his injury and was out some games. But last but not least is the continued disrespect Eli gets is unforgivable. I believe I saw that Dax was number 40?!! Words cannot express of what I think of this yearly embarrassment.

BTW, this is not a criticism of Dax who had a great year and looks like he has a bright future, but c'mon man.
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Big Blue Huddle / NGT - Another Cowboy Suspended
« Last post by uconnjack8 on June 28, 2017, 05:54:38 PM »
DE David Irving has been suspended for 4 games for violation of the PED abuse policy.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/5/23/15680874/cowboys-defense-suspension-david-irving?yptr=yahoo

He now joins Randy Gregory and Demarcus Lawrence on the suspension list.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: June Birthdays
« Last post by Shoelessjoe on June 28, 2017, 05:38:28 PM »
Happy Birthday guys!!!!
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