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Big Blue Huddle / CBS: Manning NOT top elite
« on: May 17, 2013, 11:00:45 PM »
It's worth noting that Brady's last SB ring was in 2005. Since then, Eli's won two, both times head to head against Brady. That counts for something in my book.
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Big Blue Huddle / CBS: Manning NOT top elite
« on: May 17, 2013, 10:57:49 PM »
Roger Staubach has two.
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Big Blue Huddle / CBS: Manning NOT top elite
« on: May 17, 2013, 10:55:56 PM »
Troy Aikman has three.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Name players that found themselves with the Giants
« on: May 17, 2013, 09:24:05 AM »
Antonio Pierce was very good with the Skins.

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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Name players that found themselves with the Giants
« on: May 17, 2013, 09:17:44 AM »
Eli Manning. Did pretty badly the few minutes he spent with the Chargers....

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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Name players that found themselves with the Giants
« on: May 17, 2013, 09:16:18 AM »
Rob Carpenter was already a really good player for the Oilers but he had the misfortune of being on the same roster as Earl Campbell.
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Big Blue Huddle / CBS: Manning NOT top elite
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:14:36 PM »
Quote from: jimv on May 16, 2013, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: Hooper74 on May 16, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
Who cares, Nassib is going to be under center by week nine anyhow.

WHY,Hoop???  Is he also better than Eli?  Give me a break!!!!

Jim, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Hoop was being sarcastic...
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Big Blue Huddle / CBS: Manning NOT top elite
« on: May 16, 2013, 08:57:31 PM »
Quote from: Chris on May 16, 2013, 08:44:34 PM
Yawn.

Yes. Yawn.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: NGT: Hung out one on one with Cam Newton last night
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:54:49 AM »
If Cam Newton ever gets his s**t together he can become a real (i.e. consistent) star in this league. He has all the tools.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Pats low class move
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:52:20 AM »
I have no idea what the Giants would have done in this situation, though I too would like to think they wouldn't be so callous.

But you'd be naive to think that this is simply a story about Belichik being a cold-hearted bastard. I have no doubt that plenty of other teams would have done exactly the same. And players get cut all the time because of past injuries that are no fault of their own. This is a story about what the NFL is like as a business and how players other than superstars (meaning the vast majority of them) are treated. They are completely expendable, and let's not fool ourselves: this is how we fans see the players too.
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Big Blue Huddle / Format Change??
« on: May 15, 2013, 10:01:57 PM »
Would be nice to have the "like" function on tapatalk.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Tiki Barber asks twin brother: Why don’t people like me?
« on: May 12, 2013, 06:56:39 PM »
Tiki was a terrific player for us but I still cringe every time I think of the 2000 draft. That's when the Giants could have picked Shaun Alexander but no, Ernie Accorsi and Jim Fassel in their infinite wisdom went out of their way to draft the bust Ron Dayne, an oversized halfback who they mistakenly thought was the next Jerome Bettis. Alexander went on to be Tiki but without the fumbles, more TDs, and far less melodrama and narcissism. Dayne we all know about. 2000 is right before Tiki took off. Alexander should have been a Giant, Dayne should have stayed at Wisconsin, and Tiki should have remained a third-down back and kick returner.

Now, once TC showed up in 2004 Tiki really took off. But he lost me in 2006. I found his retirement tour to be a nauseating display of self-regard and pomposity. When the Giants won the SB the next year without him, it really was a thing of beauty. Grit, determination, and teamwork defeated self-importance and blatant individualism.

Oh, and he was really lousy at doing TV. He does not strike a single authentic tone. And he is actually kind of inarticulate, if you ask me.

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Big Blue Huddle / Moore gets a note from Tuck
« on: May 11, 2013, 10:49:29 AM »
Tuck...such a downer.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Tiki Barber asks twin brother: Why don’t people like me?
« on: May 10, 2013, 10:20:24 AM »
For quite a while I despised him as much as anyone else on this board. Now I just feel really sorry for him, to be honest.

I think it would do Tiki a world of good to just shut the f**k up and disappear from the public eye for about 3-4 years and then try to start fresh with something new in life.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who's the greatest Giants coach of all time
« on: May 09, 2013, 09:38:41 PM »
"By that metric, Jim Lee Howell is an all-timer because he hired Lombardi and Landry as his coordinators."

C'mon Chris. No one is saying Parcells is a great coach simply because of the hires he made. I simply pointed out that if "having Belichik" was going to be used as an argument against Parcells's greatness, it should also not be forgotten that Parcells is the one who hired BB to be his defensive coordinator in the first place. Don't try to make straw man arguments, that's beneath you.

"I am saying it's entirely possible. Belicheck is one of the all-time greats. Better than Parcells, some would argue. None of this happens without Parcells' benevolence and vision? How can you say that?"

Yes, in the long run Belichik turned out to be greater than Parcells as a head coach. That's not the issue. He was a great coordinator long before he was a great head coach, and yes, it took foresight on Parcells's part to make that hire. Benevolence has nothing to do with that. An eye for talent does.

"I am saying Parcells is enhanced by Belicheck, not the other way around. Same as Parcells is enhanced by LT."

Sorry, but that logic has to work both ways. You have no idea what would have become of LT or Belichik or both without Parcells. Belichik is a great football mind but I'm pretty sure he learned a lot from watching Parcells work. He also won two Super Bowls with the Giants, which I'm sure you'll agree had something to do with Parcells being the Head Coach. As for LT, he had personal troubles and Parcells had a lot to do with him overcoming those and concentrating on being a great player. Also, as I'm sure Michael Jordan and Joe Montana would confirm, and as LT would be the first to concede, even the greatest athlete needs the right coach to achieve true success in a team sport. You can't deny Parcells's greatness on account of his having LT any more than you could argue that LT owes everything to Parcells. They succeeded together.

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