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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Ramses Barden looking to move on
« on: March 02, 2013, 08:48:51 PM »
Couple of things about Barden: 1. His alleged athleticism was grossly overstated. He really isn't that good of an athlete. He is a long-strider without a burst. Not particularly strong. Doesn't have hops. Isn't able to change direction quickly. Can't beat a jam. I mean other than that he's Lebron James In Giants history I think his correlative player is probably Odessa Turner. . 2. I don't think this guy burns to be a professional football player. He has an almost cavalier attitude about his performance level.We all read about how smart he is. How his Dad made him play at a lower level of collegiate competition because his studies mattered more than sports. Playing the piano at a concert level. All of that. And, of course, his Dad was correct in the overview. But this is about the Giants. He hasn't panned out. I hear from time to time that he's a Miles Austin type and that Jones and the Cowboys waited a long time for him. But I just don't see it. He, along with Beatty, committed what I consider to be the 2 most egregious blunders in 12. Beatty's hold against the Skins. Barden's ridiculousy easy-to-call OPI against Asomugha in Philadelphia. In my mind the division and another shot at the Super Bowl were lost by those 2 plays. Yes, the Giants were very lucky in wins, Bryant's hand-before-elbow in Big D being the most obvious example. But that OPI still frosts me. Also throw in Jimmy Cordles's 2 KRO penaties against the Redskins. Things we'll never forget. Glad this guy is gone.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Was Webster that bad??
« on: March 02, 2013, 08:32:36 PM »
Webster was terrible. He does have an uncanny abillity to get in Aaron Rodgers' head for some reason. The GB-NYG match-up is a good one for the Giants because the Giants DL controls the game against the Packers OL the way it is designed to do. And Webster guesses properly against Rodgers, using formation and down-and-distance tendencies in his analysis. But save for that, what can be said about this guy's play? Well you can fob off his terrible season by saying he played through an assortment of injuries. That's an excuse. In all categories of endeavor there are merely 2 evaluative grades: 1. Production 2 Excuses about lack of production. Furthermore Webster mouthed off during the season about not being used properly. How he wanted to be used was the way Fewell gameplanned for the Ravens. Well, Torrie Smith used Webster. On balance he had an awful season. Austin and Bryant, in particular, spin him around like a top. I know he had a key pick against Romo, but that was Asante Samuel stuff-he guesses.

Ceri: As far as integrating with the safety, Webster is terrible in this regard as well. He's one 2 rings as a starter. He has been very good against GB and NE. However, I cannot fathom how he has remained in their plans, at his preposterous cap number.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Combine: Five ways it impacted the Giants
« on: March 02, 2013, 08:21:00 PM »
I think the league has gotten more sophisticated at developing blocking schemes for edge rushers. The Giants speak of "row" graduations regarding the manner they use to select from their board. If players happen to be in the same horizontal row, they will skip a few spots to cover need. In other words, if there is not a large drop-off in quality, they will draft, say, #40 instead of #36 if 40 and 36 are in the same row. I cannot fathom how the Giants will draft another DE in Round 1 if Tuck is still on this team in 13. They have oppressive, gaping needs at DT LB & OL.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Osi and Fred Colefield
« on: March 02, 2013, 08:13:07 PM »
Coggs: Pretty fair point. However the aim of free agency should be to sign your key players. Cofield was inmproperly judged by Reese to not be one of his key players. A divisional opponent was made stronger at the expense of the Giants. That's about as bad as it gets.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Details of Beatty's contract
« on: March 02, 2013, 08:10:47 PM »
How does Beatty know what the market would have been for him? Tampering? Collusion? It's strictly conjecture. Beatty and his agent knew that the book of his career, at least to date, is hardly inspiring. He has shown promise. However unfulfilled promise is a plentiful quality on this planet.  I am happy he signed. It remains to be seen just how good he will be.
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Brian: You have captured the essence of the defense's strengths and weaknesses as the season played out to such a frustrating conclusion. Well done. Other than the Bengals game, the Giants were annihilated on the ground in their losses. This led to short-yardage conversion opportunities on both second and third down by the opposition. And it's hard to get to the quarterback in these circumstances. As you know I don't carry any brief against Fewell. I don't mean that I am a huge fan of his; I am not. However I do think he is a competent DC. With this in mind perhaps you might answer a few questions that I have: 1. Turnovers are caused by 2 factors: 1. Physical play. In other words pounding the opponent into mistakes. At least traditionally. However in the "new" NFL it is very difficult to intimidate quarterbacks and receivers. Hence the second method of causing turnovers: Deception, disguise-Art of War stuff. Assuming the fatal terrain. Being invisible and so forth. Doesn't Fewell thrive at this? Isn't Stevie Brown's interception total based, in part, by Fewell's disguised coverages?   2. You've already alluded to the terrible defensive tackle play against the run. And we also have to take into account how terrible Boley and Paysinger(!) were in allowing RBs to reach the corner on the stretch play and the Redskins' zone read. Shouldn't Reese be indicted for crimes against humanity for this type of linebacker play? Lastly on the inability to get the defense off the field by forcing punts: Isn't this in large part due to having a CB like Where Did He Go Webster, who quarterbacks can feel confident throwing against regardless of distance on third down? This guy gave up the short conversions in front of him. But he also was vulnerable on those excruciating third and 17-type plays a la his effort against the Ravens when not only did he fan on the pass, he also succeeding in knocking his fellow DB off the ball.
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I don't mind Reese cutting these guys. That is part of the game in the NFL. To me, Boley and Canty were easy decisions. Osi was an inevitable decision, once that is officially disclosed. And Bradshaw was the most reluctant of decisions. But Reese gets way too big a pass with Giants fans. I'm sick of this "In Reese I trust" nonsense. He's responsible for the yearly attrition in the talent-base of this team. Coughlin and Co. stole a second Super Bowl. Go ahead argue, but that's the way it is. Reese's collection of China Doll CBs, criminally negligent homicide of the linebacking corp, and inability to bring in a run-stuffing DT are the prime drivers in 12's unsavory conclusion. He needs a big off-season. He is doing necessary pruning but he better re-stock the talent base. Coughlin has had to deal with what the Confederation generals did in the Civil War: attrition model strategies. Since 08 the overall talent level of this team has gone downhill, the last Supe notwithstanding.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: Parcells in HOF not Strahan
« on: February 09, 2013, 07:02:13 AM »
I'm an Ohio State guy. I think that's a fair appraisal of Chris Carter. I don't think he should have gotten in, either, although it is true that he was second all-time in receptions when he retired. And his incessant whining no doubt was another instance of squeaky wheel gets the oil. Sapp and Strahan have unfortunately taken turns peeing on each other this week. They both belong in. And I am thrilled that The Great Parcells was finally recognized. He remains one of my all-time favorite sports personalities.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: NGT- Ravens to erect a Ray Lewis statue
« on: February 09, 2013, 06:57:01 AM »
The thing that always irked me in the Lewis case was that the prosecutors moved in the opposite manner than what is the normal course of action. They almost always move from small fish to big fish. Get the small fish to flip to rat the big fish. Lewis was the big fish. He knowingly contributed to a double homicide. FYI Part of his "rehabilitation" sentencing was to set up a couple of charities. This was part of his community service. Well one entity was just closed by the IRS. They hadn't filed tax returns in 3 years. Nor was there any charitable activity. The second survives largely by food donations given by large corporations. Lewis does nothing to advance the cause. It's sickening to see this guy strut around as he does. People change. Some get better. The commercial that ran this season with Lewis taking questions from the little girl was indeed touching. But I'm not buying it. He's still a creep. He has, however, two Super Bowl rings and he was one of the greatest MLB-ILB in NFL history.
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Well, take your word for it, but a few thoughts: 1. Players who don't start on lousy units usually (but not always) are seldom attractive "upgrade" candidates. Yes, he played behind an excellent player. At least a guy who was once an excellent player. But, 2. Just because he has the size to stop the run doesn't mean he has the skill or inclination to do so. 3. I don't want DTs being that tall. I think it leads to inherent leverage issues in the running game. 4. The deal about providing an inside pass rush has been an obsession with this team since the Fiasco in Frisco. Let's get a true run stopping DT. Even better let's cover the center with him as Pete Carroll does and use line shifts. The league has caught up to the Giants pass-rushing schemes. Too many 2nd and 3s in my opinion, caused mainly by poor DT play against the run. As for this guy there is no question that mining the secondary market for talent WHILE KEEPING YOUR OWN KEY PLAYERS is the way to play free agency. I shudder as I write this. Son of Squint recently remarked that Cruz is looking for too much money. That sounds like a 1991-type attitude.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: NGT: The Great Spags fired by the Saints
« on: January 27, 2013, 09:59:18 PM »
To me Spagnuolo did one of the worst jobs in the NFL this season. His overall talent level on defense with the Saints was not as bad as people make it out to be. In areas of the unit, it is the equal or better than what Fewell had with the Giants. The guy is a one-trick pony, whom the league has caught up to, in my opinion. This thread was interesting. Some comments:
1. Belichick was the DB coach on the Pat team that Parcells took to the Super Bowl. Al Groh was the DC of that team.
2. For Lenn: What part of Fewell's turnovers record can be describe as "read and react?" That is just canned thinking, cliched thinking that doesn't hold up to analysis. Fewell is a cover 3 coach who believes that the Giants' defensive line has been structured to keep the team in the game against the good offenses while controlling the game against the lesser offenses. Did they hold up their end in 12? Of course not. And it had nothing to do with Fewell's schemes. Tuck is washed up. Canty was useless after micro-fracture surgery. JPP did not anticipate the dedication and fortitude that would be required to continue to dominate against offenses that prepared for him. And Joseph wilted after a strong start. The Giants are paying the price in not having a run-stuffing defensive tackle. It makes their defense look passive and weak. One of the reasons why the Redskins defense appears sturdy is Cofield, whom the Giants have never replaced, in my opinion. Since the Fiasco in Frisco, every DT who has come into this program has been selected on the perception that he could provide an inside pass rush. Too many rushing attempts for 7 yards on first down. That's Perry Fewell's problem. That and having an egotistical has-been like Where Did He Go Webster at CB, who got exactly what he wanted against the Ravens and Torrey Smith. And how did that work out?
3. I think Reese is as much at fault for this year's mess as Fewell. He continually brings in these China Doll CBs who go down for long stretches of the season. You might say that CBs are oft-injured in this league because of their relative diminutive size vis a vis their duties, but look in the division. How many cbs went down on the other teams in the NFL East?  Plus the completely outrageous criminal neglect of the linebacking corp. That's Reese. His defensive ruminations leave much to be desired.
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Big Blue Huddle / Re: NFL Draft 2013 - Senior Bowl Preview
« on: January 27, 2013, 09:39:08 PM »
Hello Gentlemen: Saw not one moment of this game. However I will take the time to comment on Ceri's opinion about Cuse OT Pugh. I never liked Sampson or Terry, who were draftable SU tackles, but I love Pugh. Ceri he can easily put on 20 lbs of muscle in a structured weight program. He is an awesome player. Their whole season turned when he returned from injury and they were able to move Hickey from LT to RT to replace a JUCO guy named Alexander, who almost single handedly cost them the Minnesota game. Pugh has great balance and a terrific, debilitating hand punch. He's great moving out to pick off target downfield on those bubble screen passes. And he gets movement in the running game. I mean he smears guys in the running game. What him at guard? Sure he could do that also But to me he's a tackle. Now after this latest first-rate report filing, please repair to a pub in the classic Brit fashion by enjoying a warm beer and a cold woman.
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BBH Baseball Board / Re: Rays, Red Sox, & Yankees
« on: September 24, 2011, 11:38:11 AM »
Theo and Terry deny that there is a split with the Bolsheviks. Neil Diamond warming up with a has-been version of "Sweet Caroline" as we type. If the Red Sox slide in, as I think they will, they shouldn't be dismissed as a championship candidate. As I recall Four Rings Joe's last WS Championship (against Mets) was with a team that won less than 90 games that season (2000) because they basically went 0 for Sept. Playoffs = whole different season. Last night's rainout will be made up as part of a day-night doubleheader tomorrow. Makes for a wild Sunday for Giants-Yankees fans.
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BBH Baseball Board / Re: Florida Marlins/Miami Marlins
« on: September 24, 2011, 11:33:37 AM »
Looks like they went heavy on Dolphin colors, 29.  The populace of Miami was so happy about the new stadium they helped built that they re-called the mayor, amigo. Better park will help, but Miami is still way too hot and humid during the summer. At least for my tastes.
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BBH Baseball Board / Re: Baseball trivia Question of the Day, or thereabouts
« on: September 24, 2011, 11:30:10 AM »
 <:-P  Alright, Red gives it up. No more rope a dope. Yes, keep those pants on while chasing that Lion into the end zone, Jason. Better CB than CF that guy.
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