Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Trench on Today at 11:59:17 AMI think we may see a return of the traditional fullback in the coming years.

I actually thought about that. Maybe not traditional, but a jack-of-all-trades back who gives you blitz pickup, receiving, and short yardage duties. Sort of a Larry Centers-Tom Rathman hybrid.

I hate the modern NFL. If I was younger and not motivated by nostalgia and tradition I'm sure I'd not be remotely interested. 

Is Singletary that guy? 🤔

Do we have a goal line running back? 

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 09:59:26 AMI'm well aware of that. I'm an a University of Wisconsin alum/booster. He graduated high school a year early with the hopes of being Wisconsin's starting strong safety as a freshman. Was converted to running back due to a rash of injuries as a freshman. He played really well and ran hard and then thought it would be a great idea to add 25 pounds to his NFL frame. He hasn't been the same player since often chosing to dance in the hole and getting dropped for no gain instead of picking up four yards.

By the way, I didn't mean to insult you. It was more of a rhetorical question. 

Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 10:14:51 AMBecause he said he wants more money and skipped a voluntary workout.

I get that, but we've had players do that it the past many times and forumites rush to thier defense in reminding us that it's a "voluntary" workout.

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 09:37:12 AMIt's a term for an athlete that listens and reacts to criticism from outside the locker room, particularly the fans and the media. If he has a really hard time dealing with fans in Madison who are upset that he goes down far to easily for a 240 pound running back how the hell is he going to survive being ripped daily on the WFAN?

OK thanks for explaining that. 🙂

You know he's only 20?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 09:20:42 AMI just don't view Slayton as a consequential subject either way, so I'm not sure why he's getting so much airtime this week.

He's not that impactful if they keep him, and he's not going to get you much in a trade if you move him. Either way I just don't get why he's such a subject right now. He is the quintessential definition of a JAG.

I think he's a notch above a JAG but he works hard and really wants to be a Giant. I don't fault him for advocating for himself. That's just a function of the business. Folks have a beef with him because he's has some glaring drops. Other players for some reason get a pass on that.

Why is everyone so obsessed with trading Slayton?

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on Today at 12:00:41 AMWhether you like it or not, they have Gray from last year's draft and signed Devin Singletary. It's a low draft value position and they--at least in their minds--have it filled barring some unforeseen circumstance. Also, if this re-build is longer than one offseason (which it assuredly is), there is next year's draft. Yes, 2024 may be painful... but was there a way to fix that in one draft cycle? I'm not positive that spending a premium pick on a RB would have accomplished a legitimate goal.

We will get to see how valuable the running back position is this season. I have no confidence in our backfield right now. I wasn't a big fan even before Barkley left.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 08:53:26 AMYes it's amazing they put how prospects receive television signals in a scouting report.  Definitely a red flag he doesnt use streaming.

Lol. Yeah I'm not sure what that means. 

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 08:46:42 AMNo thank you. Runs too soft, is always banged up and has rabbit ears. Not a good fit.

Rabbit ears?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 08:24:50 AMHard to say.

I don't think Jones will be the QB for the next two years, first of all. It's not impossible, but my base case is he will be gone after this year. Even if he plays like he played in 2022, which I know some here think was really good, I think they will be looking to go in a different direction after the season is over. He'll have to play multiple cuts better than he has ever played before to stay in my opinion.

Of course, if the team is something like 9-8 this year (I am not at all saying they will be, just if), then they'll be in a tough position to draft a QB. They'll be looking at picking up the scraps outside of the top 10, or giving up multiple future first rounders to move up in what figures to be a weaker class than this year. So there is that issue too.

One thing I know for sure is that if they didn't want to preserve the option of cutting Jones after 2024, they would have restructured his contract to not have to absorb a $47mm hit this year. So unless they suddenly do that (I don't know what the deadline is), we know that they're not all-in on him as far as the long term goes. We also pretty much know that they tried to move up to three and weren't able to. All the reliable sources like Rapaport have stated that as basically fact.

So as far as Daboll and Schoen go, I think if they move on from Jones after 2024, they're not going to be in a position where they're expected to suddenly contend with a rookie QB. I guess if this season is a total catastrophe Mara could just clean house, as we have seen him do before, but I think that is far from being base case.

I don't see Mara cleaning house no matter how bad the record is unless it's accompanied by a media meltdown and a lot of dirty laundry.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 07:35:37 AMIf they are treading water for the next 2 years, do you think Daboll is still around for the new QB?

That's a damn good question and I almost included it in my comment. I'd have to say yes because Schoen is just as culpable. But I never know what John and Chris Mara are thinking despite all the presumption that surrounds them. 

Braelon Allen is still available I think.

Quote from: StompYouOT on April 26, 2024, 10:30:10 PMYessir.  I don't think we hear too many excuses next year when Jones doesn't come through.  I just wonder how and when we will find that guy if next year's draft class is subpar?  This draft looks like solid work by Schoen and Daboll along with the Jax trade.  Slowly but surely we might get to being a "QB away" type team.

I believe we may be looking to the 2026 draft and will tread water until then.