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The #Giants signed DB David Long Jr.

26-year-old, 5'11, 196-pound CB w/ 96 career tackles, 6 PBUs, and 2 interceptions.

He entered the draft out of Michigan in 2019. He had a 98th-percentile 3-Cone (6.45 👀) and a 90th-percentile short-shuttle (3.97).

Long has 964 career snaps out wide and 275 inside at slot. He spent 2019-2022 with the Rams before bouncing around with the Raiders, Panthers, and Packers last season.

https://x.com/nickfalato/status/1785772809236459597?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

The New York Giants today signed free agent defensive back David Long Jr., who is entering his sixth season in the NFL.
Long, 5-11 and 196 pounds, was originally a third-round draft choice by the Rams in 2019. He spent his first four seasons with Los Angeles before playing for three teams (Raiders, Panthers, and Packers) in 2023.
Overall, Long has appeared in 66 regular-season games with 12 starts. His career numbers include 97 tackles, eight passes defensed, and an interception. He has also played in six postseason games with one start, which occurred in the Rams' victory over the Bengals in Super Bowl LVI.

https://www.giants.com/news/david-long-jr-defensive-back-los-angeles-rams-raiders-panthers-packers-nfl-free-agency

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on Today at 03:39:57 PMGettleman got outmaneuvered by Philly who moved up to take Devonta Smith and then couldn't pivot off the pre-planned approach (take a WR in the first round) to either of those two players you mentioned.

The irony is if Gettleman had just drafted Parsons (and assuming the Giants were able to manage Parsons as we as Dallas) or if DG grabbed Slater, no one would have ever talked about the Eagles outmaneuvering the Giants.

It was the outmaneuver combined with the terrible pick of Toney in the trade-down (along with squandering the first-round pick they got on Neal) that made things look so bad

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 03:47:56 PMThey did that with Wilson last year. Football is cut throat I think people are adult enough to realize that and accept it for what it is a shrewd buisness decision.

Didn't they sit Wilson rather than try and get him to waive his injury guarantee?

I always look forward to these podcasts as Carl is a wealth of both football knowledge, and he is about as inside the building as an insider can get



Carl Banks and Bob Papa are back on the mic discussing the 2024 NFL Draft and its first-round pick, Malik Nabers. They dive into his potential impact on quarterback Daniel Jones and the rest of the offense. Carl highlights the team's strategic offseason moves, including addressing critical areas such as the defensive backfield, wide receivers, and offensive line and adding depth to the running back room. The episode concludes with some NY Rangers talk, LGR

https://x.com/clt_ny/status/1785749634545000448

Quote from: Trench on Today at 02:20:15 PMIt will be interesting to see if this new defense generates more pressure also

From what I have heard, Bowen prefers to try and generate his pressure from his front four, while Wink likes to generate it via blitzes and extra rushers.   So in theory we should see more production from the D-line and edge players

Quote from: Trench on Today at 12:59:22 PMRich,

I'm not very familiar with our new defensive system but my question is knowing what you know of it, do you think Boogie will be a good fit or a surprise this year?

I think Boogie might be a better fit in Bowen's defense in the 3-4 DE role.  Wink tended to sub out his DEs (for an edge, second DT, or another DB).  It's possible Boogie could be the DE (with Thibs or Burns being the other DE) and on obvious passing downs you have Burns and Thibs as the DEs

@Jclayton92 and @Ed Vette

How would agents view Schoen if he tried to force a renegotiation of an injury guarantee?   While I have seen players be asked to take pay cuts or be cut, I have not witnessed a team try to renegotiate a guarantee.  There seems to be an unwritten rule (I am not fully versed; it might even be a written rule) that guarantees money in contracts.

Do you think that might hurt Schoen in future contract negotiations?

https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1785725747320996267

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 01:19:09 PMI think a bigger question is how much the ACL affects his running ability, since that's a big part of his game.  A neck injury that only keeps him out 3 weeks doesn't seem that threatening, to me.  But what do I know?

I think the ACL will hamper Jones, especially at the beginning of the season.  The one thing I remain hopeful about is that Jones' running tends to be more of a straight-line runner than a quarterback who does a lot of juking.

@Jolly Blue Giant

Looking at the PFF grades, I think there could be some validity to suggestions that he wasn't a good fit for Wink's system




Boogie came into the league at 6' 3" and 275 pounds, which doesn't scream 3-tech (too light)


I also looked at his NFL.com scouting report.   One thing that was sort of interesting was this:

"He's a big dude, but he's also carrying some extra weight and will need to lean down a little bit or he's going to end up eating himself inside." -- Personnel director for NFC team

You can read the rest of his write-up here

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/boogie-basham/32004241-5314-1481-9904-6347892079b0

Quote from: sxdxca38 on Today at 11:45:54 AMHopefully DJ has a bounce back year and this injury thing is simply a moot point.

IF   DJ was being completely honest about his second neck injury just being a routine stinger (and implying it had nothing to do with his prior )neck injury

IF the Giants can properly protect DJ, there is a reasonable chance he can avoid another major injury

Quote from: LennG on Today at 11:42:59 AMKiper gave the Giants a B.

Here was his write-up


Top needs entering the draft: Wide receiver, cornerback, quarterback

The Giants were on the clock at No. 6 overall Thursday night, faced with a fascinating decision: Would they take quarterback J.J. McCarthy -- which would have been an admission that they regret the Daniel Jones extension from the 2023 offseason -- or would they get a true No. 1 wideout for Jones in either Rome Odunze or Malik Nabers? They could start fresh under center or they could give Jones another year with the playmaker he has never had.

Ultimately, I think they made the right call, prioritizing a pass-catcher in Nabers (6), who is electric with the ball in his hands. Jones had a disappointing start to last season and then tore his ACL, but he showed his talent in 2022, when New York made a surprising run to the playoffs. Now he's going to have one more year to prove he's the guy, or the franchise will move on in 2025.

I would have taken a few other safeties ahead of Tyler Nubin (47) in Round 2, but you can't deny his playmaking ability; he had 13 career interceptions for the Golden Gophers. Dru Phillips (70) is a late riser who played a lot of slot coverage snaps in his career. With Darren Waller's future up in the air, I liked the pick of Theo Johnson (107) early on Day 3. He's my fourth-ranked tight end in the class.

This is a small class, but all four of the Giants' top selections should have significant roles this season. Nabers might end up being the most-targeted player on the team.

Former GM Jeff Diamond gives his grade on the Giants


 NEW YORK GIANTS: B+
Despite the rumors, I never believed the New York Giants would pick a first-round quarterback. Daniel Jones was a solid quarterback who won a playoff game in 2022 without a premier wide receiver. As he comes off his ACL injury, he's undoubtedly happy to welcome an elite receiver prospect in Malik Nabers.

The former LSU wideout is explosive and close in ability to Marvin Harrison Jr. Nabers had 44 receptions of 20-plus yards over the last two seasons (and 14 touchdowns last season) playing in the SEC.

Second-rounder Tyler Nubin was the top-ranked safety in the draft. He defends well against the run and pass and will replace Xavier McKinney.

Andru Phillips adds talent at cornerback and Theo Johnson is an athletic tight end —  a good fourth-round value. He's insurance if Darren Waller retires or gets hurt and a possible successor. Tyrone Tracy brings speed and explosiveness to the backfield in the later rounds, and Darius Muasau can be a sixth-round find at linebacker and on special teams.


Here is Diamond's resume

Jeff Diamond is a former general manager of the Minnesota Vikings and team president of the Tennessee Titans. He was selected NFL Executive of the Year after the Vikings' 15-1 season in 1998.

He now works for the NFL agent group IFA based in Minneapolis and does other sports consulting and media work along with college/corporate speaking. You can follow him on Twitter @jeffdiamondNFL.