Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 02:02:51 PMI got excited when Ojulari came to OTAs jacked. Since then, a player coming in jacked is not something I immediately celebrate
Similar with Bellinger.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: MightyGiants on Today at 02:02:51 PMI got excited when Ojulari came to OTAs jacked. Since then, a player coming in jacked is not something I immediately celebrate
Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on Today at 12:42:48 PMFar be it for me to defend the Giants, as the last decade plus proves that they have been well behind average as a franchise, but this guy makes zero sense. Take JJ just because positional value dictates a QB? Take an OT and move him to ROT just like we did a few years ago? And what, make trades to shake things up and be more inspiring? This guy sounds like an idiot.
Sure, I could have made a good case to trade down in the first and get more picks and draft into the WR strength in the draft, but I give the Giants credit for not trading up, or not taking a QB at 6 they did not have convictions on. They will be judged harshly if they missed on QB, but they didn't do the "easy" thing and pick a QB and try to do something with a player that they didn't believe in.
Quote from: Trench on May 01, 2024, 02:20:15 PMIt will be interesting to see if this new defense generates more pressure also
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 11:48:02 AMIF DJ was being completely honest about his second neck injury just being a routine stinger (and implying it had nothing to do with his prior )neck injury
IF the Giants can properly protect DJ, there is a reasonable chance he can avoid another major injury
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 10:19:19 AMDJ has an injury guarantee in his contract for 2025. That fact may push the Giants to bench DJ in the second half if the season is out of hand (as other NFL teams dealing with such guarantees have done). Here is the explanation by Dan Duggan
Quote from: gregf on April 30, 2024, 10:14:20 PMNice list J. I'd be disappointed if Nabers does not get at least half the starting reps at WR from game 1. I like Elumenor at RT. This will be the best competition in camp to watch. I agree that DT depth needs help. I think Bellinger holds the starting TE spot, don't need rookie blocking mistakes. RB#2 will be fun to watch too.
Quote from: kingm56 on May 01, 2024, 07:50:00 AMRich,
If you're being honest, you will acknowledge several fans predicted DJ was ascending to become a top 10/5 QB; last year, a few even predicted the DJ-led offense was on the verge of 'lethality.' Any QB who ascends into the top 10/5, or leads a lethal offense, is by definition, an MVP caliber QB. I believe that's what H-Town was referring to when he made his statement; at least, that's how I interpreted it.
Quote from: Uncle Mickey on April 30, 2024, 10:27:11 PMJones threw down the field in Shurmur's offense and in Duke. His downfield passing according to advanced metrics was really good.
I would suspect with a Bracillo coached OL the guy who took average lines with NE and an injury riddled Raiders line last year to top 10-12 finishes gets these guys playing sound cohesively and much more technically sound as unit.
I heard an football guy once say you build your passing game like a basketball team. It's not a perfect comparison obviously but I love the analogy. Theo Johnson is your Center, Hodgins is your Power forward, Hyatt/Slayton are your 'undersized' speedy small forwards, Nabers is your electric do-it-all shooting guard, and Wan'Dale is your shifty jitterbug Point guard. A lot of gameplans can be formulated when you have so many receiving options with varied size and strengths to their games.
Jones has never had a WR corps like this not even close. In fact he has never had a receiving threat that was pro bowl caliber like ever. The walking corpses of Golden Dome Tate, Kenny 'on a Holiday' Golladay, Darren 'Hit A' Wall-er or Kyle the Red-nosed Reindeer doesn't count.
In theory, this should be a drastically better receiving group and a drastically better offensive line , if nothing because of coaching alone. No rookies starting on this line either.
Again, I present all this not because I guarantee Jones balls-out but quite simply now there is finally a reasonable opportunity in place that he could.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 01, 2024, 08:38:07 AMWhile Waller isn't sure his heart is still in football, he seems to be all in on his music career
https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1748432843326267844
Quote from: babywhales on May 01, 2024, 08:27:25 AMLast year Waller was a disappointment and looked like a guy who wasn't all in. For him to come out this offseason and admit as much, be gone.
I am not convinced Jones can progress through 4 receiving routes on 1 play anyway so there is that... at least in his first 5 years he has not so far
Quote from: Trench on April 30, 2024, 01:15:56 PMThis is a good debate.
I would argue our backups played against some very strong teams and some who also made the playoffs.Stats do lie. It ain't everything. I'm sure someone adept at stats could find statistics that support my argument in some way.
Does anyone dispute the fact they BOTH moved the ball better than the $40 million QB?
Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on April 30, 2024, 12:45:05 PMIs what I've highlighted that different from most QBs in the NFL? I tend to think not... which then merits in favor of moving on from him with a palatable short-term cap hit, because you can get similar (if not greater) production at a fraction of the cost.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 30, 2024, 12:32:40 PMI have heard this claim come up, but frankly it's juts not accurate as this chart clearly shows.
How quickly the pressure arrives matters a great deal and clearly the other two QBs had it significantly better than Jones