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#1
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Missing Person Report
Last post by kingm56 - Today at 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 02:06:36 PMWell, that same marketing department thought it was a good idea to give fans a soda for fan appreciation day, so there's that.

That was more than likely thier public affairs aperture and not marketing...those are two completely separate sections. 
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Missing Person Report
Last post by T200 - Today at 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on Today at 02:03:27 PMTim,
Can I ask you a few questions, which I hope will better articulate my point?

1. Do yo believe the Giants have an extensive marketing department?
2. Do you believe the Giants conducted research pertaining to the players the fanbase was most excited about, which coupled with thier internal data (e.g. jersey sales, media request, etc) allowed them to glean who thier most marketable players are?
3. If you believe 2 occurred, isn't it logical to place the players that polled/rated the highest on the marquee?

Also, to Ed's point, the Giants would look foolish to promote DJ, only to go in a different direction early in the season. 

From my perspective, I just have a hard time believing a multi-billion dollar organization randomly chose three players to promote without doing extensive research.   

No.
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Missing Person Report
Last post by T200 - Today at 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 02:06:36 PMWell, that same marketing department thought it was a good idea to give fans a soda for fan appreciation day, so there's that.
:laugh:   :yes:  :yes:
#4
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Missing Person Report
Last post by T200 - Today at 02:06:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 01:59:15 PMThey don't know who the starting QB will be.
That's a *little* more plausibe. Little.
#5
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Missing Person Report
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 02:06:36 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on Today at 02:03:27 PMTim,
Can I ask you a few questions, which I hope will better articulate my point?

1. Do yo believe the Giants have an extensive marketing department?
2. Do you believe the Giants conducted research pertaining to the players the fanbase was most excited about, which coupled with thier internal data (e.g. jersey sales, media request, etc) allowed them to glean who thier most marketable players are?
3. If you believe 2 occurred, isn't it logic to place the players that polled/rated the highest on the marquee?

From my perspective, I just have a hard time believing a multi-billion dollar organization randomly chose three players to promote without doing extensive research.   


Well, that same marketing department thought it was a good idea to give fans a soda for fan appreciation day, so there's that.
#6
Big Blue Huddle / Re: PFF ranks the Giants’ offe...
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 02:03:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 01:57:36 PMWhen y'all are crying because they didnt draft a QB, Ill be there to provide comfort and shelter from the storm.

You'd be very hard-pressed to find me taking any exception to drafting or not drafting a QB.  I never took a position.

But I apologize for continuing to bring facts, context, and perspective into the discussion.
#7
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Missing Person Report
Last post by kingm56 - Today at 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: T200 on Today at 01:53:44 PMSorry, still don't buy that this flyer without Jones will generate more revenue, since you say that's the bottom line, than it would with him.

Tim,
Can I ask you a few questions, which I hope will better articulate my point?

1. Do yo believe the Giants have an extensive marketing department?
2. Do you believe the Giants conducted research pertaining to the players the fanbase was most excited about, which coupled with thier internal data (e.g. jersey sales, media request, etc) allowed them to glean who thier most marketable players are?
3. If you believe 2 occurred, isn't it logical to place the players that polled/rated the highest on the marquee?

Also, to Ed's point, the Giants would look foolish to promote DJ, only to go in a different direction early in the season. 

From my perspective, I just have a hard time believing a multi-billion dollar organization randomly chose three players to promote without doing extensive research.   
#8
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Which has been harder to f...
Last post by kartanoman - Today at 02:01:49 PM
Three important roles, no question.

But we all know it takes much more than these guys to make a champion. You need impact players. You need catalysts. You need leaders by example. You need players who inspire. You need people behind the scenes who contribute endlessly to optimize the end product on the field. You will find that these folks are equally as hard to find in lock step with the above three.

For every George Young and Bill Parcells, there has to be a Bill Belichick, a Mike Pope, a Lawrence Taylor, a Harry Carson, a Mark Bavaro, a Phil McConkey, a Johnny Parker and so many others who never had their name shouted during roll call. But all of them, taken together, accomplished the greatest achievement in New York Football Giants' history. They deserve to be the benchmark by which all other Giants' seasons should be measured against.

Finding the right pieces to a championship puzzle remains a daunting challenge in the NFL. To find the calibur of staff and players the 1986 Championship team was made up of is a testament to Simms, Parcells and Young; however, it must include Timothy Mara and Wellington Mara for agreeing to hire George Young, on February 14, 1979, and agree to a new set of principles by which they would step back and yield authority for football operations decisions to their new General Manager.

Peace!
#9
Big Blue Huddle / Re: PFF ranks the Giants’ offe...
Last post by AZGiantFan - Today at 02:00:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 01:55:04 PMAnd the beat goes on...

And it will continue to go on until the Giants demonstrate that they can field a decent (i.e., not top ten, but is hoping for not bottom ten too much to ask?) offensive line.
#10
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Missing Person Report
Last post by Ed Vette - Today at 01:59:15 PM
Quote from: T200 on Today at 01:53:44 PMSorry, still don't buy that this flyer without Jones will generate more revenue, since you say that's the bottom line, than it would with him.
They don't know who the starting QB will be.